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> Michael the Brave Order, Originals versus Copies
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Posted: May 23, 2007 03:15 pm
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I have been collecting Rumanian decorations for a few years. I am very confused about the MV order. I have one fine quality 1941 Third Class in silver gilt that is of the quality I would expect. All of the others I have seen are gilded bronze and from the details, practically no two are made by the same maker. Could someone please post some high quality photos of known 1) issue pieces and 2) period second pieces of the 1941 version?
For such a high decoration, the quality of almost all the ones I have seen does not seem good enough. The common Rumanian orders and medals are better quality. Also, what should they be made of? As I understand it, the current issue is made of silver and gilded.
Also, the First Class pin back badge: How many 1941's were awarded? From the list on the site, only a few of the highest ranking German generals were awarded the MV. How many Germans total got the First Class MV? Are the names known?
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Posted: May 23, 2007 07:39 pm
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Posted: May 23, 2007 07:45 pm
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Posted: May 23, 2007 07:55 pm
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Hallo hughwbrock :D

Would you like to show us some pictures of your pieces?


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Posted: May 25, 2007 10:44 am
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There is a First Class 1941 MV on the current Zeige auction. Is it an award piece or a second piece?
Had trouble trying to post photos of other badge.
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Posted: May 25, 2007 11:02 pm
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I saw the picture on the Zeige site, and what strikes me as unusual is that it's a MV 1st class with Swords.
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Posted: May 25, 2007 11:35 pm
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Posted: May 28, 2007 03:18 am
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How do I post image?
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Posted: May 28, 2007 06:29 am
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See the image posting guide, here: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2093
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hughwbrock
Posted: May 29, 2007 11:27 am
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Have tried to post photos but have forgotten name/password for the photo post software and cannot get it to tell me what it is---don't know if it is caught in spam blocker or what. Need help.
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Posted: May 29, 2007 12:59 pm
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Send me an email with the photos, I will post them for you.
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Posted: June 04, 2007 11:04 am
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Posted: June 04, 2007 06:16 pm
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Thanks for help with the photos! Anyone know who the manufacturer of this badge is and when it was made?
Will get photos of the 3 Cl soon.
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Posted: June 10, 2007 11:33 am
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As far as I know, the First Class of the order looked different. There are both the cyphers of Ferdinand and Michael and the dates 1916 and 1941 on the obverse.
I suspect that yours is a recently made copy.
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Posted: June 10, 2007 11:52 am
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QUOTE (boonicootza @ June 10, 2007 11:33 am)
As far as I know, the First Class of the order looked different. There are both the cyphers of Ferdinand and Michael and the dates 1916 and 1941 on the obverse.
I suspect that yours is a recently made copy.

Yes boonicootza is right, yours is a modern copy.

Look what is writen on the ww2 site about the Order Michel the Brave 1941 first class:

"On the 1941 model, the cipher of Mihai I and the year 1941 were added on the cross: 1st class had from up to down: 1916, Ferdinand's cipher, Mihai's cipher and 1941."
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