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Posted: October 11, 2005 03:35 pm
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Hello to anyone , I am new on this forum and I will hope you will have understnding for my mistakes.

From my dad I heard that close to Airport Bucrest Otopeni in WWII there was a radar and telemetric station called " tiger" of the germans army or luftwaffe.Do anyone know the exact location of the installation and have any photos ? This station was used till 1944 under ground and good camufalge

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Posted: October 11, 2005 07:32 pm
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German radars position map

(IMG:http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/uploads/post-2-1109587452.jpg)
Originally posted by Cantacuzino.
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Posted: October 11, 2005 08:54 pm
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General Carol

Thank you very much for your help but I am affraight to say the chart is only pertinet to to use of the night fighters and the landing signalling facilities and not any Radar locations in Rumania .

I am looking for the location of Wuerzburg , Freya and Lichetnsteins radars stations in Rumania between 1943 to 1944

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Posted: October 11, 2005 09:22 pm
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QUOTE (iceman @ Oct 11 2005, 09:54 PM)
Thank you very much for your help but I am affraight to say the chart is only pertinet to to use of the night fighters and the landing signalling facilities  and not any Radar locations in Rumania .

Sorry for the error. I just remembered Cantacuzino posting this image as the map of the German radars, but not the subsequent correction.
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Posted: October 12, 2005 05:06 am
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The radar locations in Romania were:
-Medias: Freya radar
-Timisoara: Freya radar
-Focsani: Freya radar
-Piatra Neamt: Freya radar
-Buzau (Brutus): Würzburg radar
-Bujorei (Belisar): Würzburg radar
-Comana (Cornelius): Würzburg radar
-Giurgiu: Freya radar
-Jilavele (Justinian): Würzburg radar
-Manastirea (Marius): Würzburg radar
-Targoviste (Tiberius): Würzburg radar
-Pietrosita (Pompeius): Würzburg radar
-Valenii de Munte (Varus): Würzburg radar
-Zilistea: Wotan II
-Targu Jiu: Freya radar
-Techirghiol: Freya radar, Wasserman I radar
-Mahmudia (Marta): Freya radar
-Bucharest:
---Baneasa: Knickebein radar, Jagdschloss IFF station, Wotan II
---Otopeni (Octavian): Freya radar, Würzburg radar, Wotan II
-Chisinau: Freya radar

Information from Inceputurile radarului in Romania - Cu ochii scrutand cerul in bezna noptii by Ioan Iordache, in issue 4/2005 of Modelism International.

Btw, as far as I know the Liechtenstein radar was mounted on night fighters, so it didn't have a fixed position. :D
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Posted: October 12, 2005 06:45 am
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QUOTE (Victor @ Oct 12 2005, 06:06 AM)
The radar locations in Romania were:
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-Buzau (Brutus): Würzburg radar
-Bujorei (Belisar): Würzburg radar
-Comana (Cornelius): Würzburg radar
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-Jilavele (Justinian): Würzburg radar
-Manastirea (Marius): Würzburg radar
-Targoviste (Tiberius): Würzburg radar
-Pietrosita (Pompeius): Würzburg radar
-Valenii de Munte (Varus): Würzburg radar
...
-Mahmudia (Marta): Freya radar
...
---Otopeni (Octavian): Freya radar, Würzburg radar, Wotan II

These locations also appear on Cantacuzion's map with the designation "beacons" (Germ. "Leuchtfeuer"). Does it mean that the locations contained both equipments?
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Dear General Carol

Thank you for your messages. I think there is a possibility that the german chart also applies to the German radars locations at least some of them but I doubt it has something to do in majority with Radar stations I mostly think is showing the night facilities for fighter aircraft coordination and landings at night ....so I am still puzzled where the location of all Rumanian and German radars was in WWII in Rumania

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Posted: October 12, 2005 01:10 pm
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QUOTE (iceman @ Oct 12 2005, 11:01 AM)
Dear General Carol

Thank you for your messages.  I think there is a possibility that the german chart also applies to the German radars locations at least some of them but I doubt it has something to do in majority with Radar stations I mostly think  is showing the night facilities for fighter aircraft coordination and landings at night ....so I am still puzzled where the location of all Rumanian and German radars was in WWII in Rumania

Thank you !
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The list I wrote mentions the radar types and their locations in Romania. Isn't that what you wanted?
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Posted: October 12, 2005 01:13 pm
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QUOTE (Carol I @ Oct 12 2005, 08:45 AM)
These locations also appear on Cantacuzion's map with the designation "beacons" (Germ. "Leuchtfeuer"). Does it mean that the locations contained both equipments?

Yes, it seems they also had radiobeacons at those locations.
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Posted: October 12, 2005 02:02 pm
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Dear Victor

thanks for informing me more, do I correcly understand that the placement of the light beacons were also radar guidance stations ?

Perhaps you can help me to download images of 500 KB into my topics, I tried all possibilities and doesnt work. Do I need to download a special Shark software ?

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Posted: October 12, 2005 03:21 pm
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QUOTE

do I correcly understand that the placement of the light beacons were also radar guidance stations ?


They were complementary. Wurzburgs radars with serchlight unit ( that probably means the light beacons on the map), AA guns units and night fighters work toghether as a team.
See one of the tipical arrangement below:

(IMG:http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9308/6sys4607wo2es.gif)

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Dear general Cantacuzino

I want to post some photos and chart of Bucharest aa defenses, I am not able to download the photos with Shark...can you please help ?

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Posted: October 12, 2005 03:52 pm
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Dear general Cantacuzino

I want to post some photos and chart of Bucharest aa defenses, I am not able to download the photos with Shark...can you please help ?

Thank You
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First you "browse" for the picture ( should be max. 200Kb) than you push the "Host it" button. You wait for loading the Image shack, select and copy -paste (to your message board) the "hotlink for forums" from the image shack links.

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Posted: October 12, 2005 04:45 pm
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You have an image attachment guide here: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2093
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Posted: October 12, 2005 04:48 pm
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Cantacuzino, I believe the beacons on the map are radiobeacons, not searchlights. They were used to help the night fightrers to determine their current position, by measuring the relative position to the beacon.
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