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Anyone know what branch this visor cap insignia is for? Bullion wire officers patch on Medium blue now faded. Crown removed which was typical after 1947. Insignia in the center looks like a pole (Telegraqph or insulator) with lighting bolts doming from it. The cap is dark navy blue and the cap band is medium blue same color as infantry blue which is now faded. Cap was made in "Cernauti".
Perhaps Telagraph ? or Topographical ?

This post has been edited by REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR on July 19, 2006 11:30 am

This visor hat patch insignia came with the hat. It is a visor cap emblem patch on Maroon color. It has the same insignia in the center, a pole with lightning bolts, and with the addition of mapping tools. Compass and triangle ruler. Perhaps geographical or archetectual symbols. Above are the letters "S.L.E. or S.L.C.". Perhaps : Scoala, L....., E........ ? These insignia are military.

Can anyone identify these pieces ?

This post has been edited by REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR on July 19, 2006 11:32 am

It is folding hook used by the hunters as field extractor for the empty shotshells wich sometimes jam in the barrel of the shotgun.The hook catch the rim of the empty shell,helping extraction.

Another interesting officers visor cap insignia. This one is an Air Force insignia and insted of having the eagle insignia in the center of the wreath, it has a very large cypher of King Michael. Never seen this piece before. What regiment would have worn this ? or perhaps it belong to King Michaels personal pilot ?

I never seen such a badge. The lighting flashes were the symbol of signal troops but the shape of the badge, the colours of the cap and cap band are not according the army uniform regulations. I don’t know if it’s military. It might be a civilian service cap, such as the postal telegraph. During the 1930s-1940s these services carried army style caps.

This is not a military badge. The symbols: the compass, the triangle and the lightning flashes might suggest some civilian technical service. I wonder if SLP would mean Serviciul Lucrarilor Publice (Service for Public Works)?

The shape of the badge suggests it might be of an earlier type: 1925-1930 and the Michael I cipher indicates that it was carried during the Regency time (1927-1930). During that period, officers used to carry on their caps the cipher of the King who was reigning when they were appointed Second-Lieutenants.

boonicootza and I found this pack, can anyone tell us more? stamp was unreadable

Unknown Pack

It's a Russian WWII knapsack, but with one of the original suspension straps replaced with an unknown one.

PS From that shop I have bought some very nice and rare things, including my first item, a canteen .

Hallo Guys,

I believe your pack was originaly a German WW2 Military pack circa (1938-45) but it has been altered after ww2 by the look of it. The very early ones had fur (Cow-skin or pony skin on the outside and were known as "Affee" german for ape or monkey, these were relegated to reserve units as the war progressed. There were a number of different models.
The next version was made from canvas, but remained basicaly the same size and shape, with cutbacks design changes were introduced to make production more easier.

The four black pieces of artificial leather sewn to the flap are not original, also if you look at the bottom of the flap the two original fastning straps have been removed.

Looking at the back of the pack, stamped into the leather under the white sticker should be the name of the manufacturer, and the date, and by the look of it, the two carrying straps could be replacements as well as they look like two odd pieces, the originals had stampings in them of date of Manufacture and "L" for Links / Left and "R" Rechts / Right.

The green cotton "Pouch" inside with the two leather straps was for carrying the eating utensil / mess-kit. the pack was used to carry the soldiers, wash-gear, clean shirts, underwear, etc, with the over coat strapped to the outside of the pack.

I will post some pictures of two examples in my collection starting with the "Affee"

















If it turns out to be a Russian then it might be a field modification based on captured german packs, there were special units who repaired and recycled military items on both sides in WW2 or a Russian copy!!
Kevin in Deva.

This post has been edited by New Connaught Ranger on July 22, 2006 09:17 pm

This is what I based my opinion on; the description and the picture are very close to the knapsack found by RHaught.


Source: "Field Equipment of the Infantry 1914-1945" written by Robert Fisch

This is my German WWII knapsack and is different to the on RHaught posted.



Edit: Stop editing the post .

This post has been edited by mihnea on July 28, 2006 05:48 pm

Please forgive the offtopic recurence, but I ask someone to please PM me the location of this shop. I am very interested in browsing its wares.

Thanks alot,

Alex

I also have the "Ponyfur" pack with a 1939 date but by being bare really couldn't tell since I couldn't find a date or read the maker mark or stamp. Did find an original Ammo pouch dated 1943 in very good condition and picked it up. Most items were postwar and was looking for a canteen and gasmask + canister. Found all types of various medal but prices too high for what they were, especially the German awards.


To know where to go look at this thread on the forum:
Shopping in Bucharest

I never seen such a badge. The lighting flashes were the symbol of signal troops but the shape of the badge, the colours of the cap and cap band are not according the army uniform regulations. I don’t know if it’s military. It might be a civilian service cap, such as the postal telegraph. During the 1930s-1940s these services carried army style caps.

Overall photo of what may be a Telegraphers visor cap.

Cap band is faded. But when turned inside out, it shows a nice medium blue color.
The cap base color is dark navy blue.