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ragewolf
Posted: April 03, 2004 12:02 am
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look this:
(IMG:http://vip.6to23.com/arkroyal/BATTLE/p2/kriegsm1.jpg)

I don't know german, who can tell me what does this picture mean?
what kind of poster is this?
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Posted: April 03, 2004 12:05 am
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It appears to be a Kriegsmarine (German Navy) recruiting poster.
'Einsatz' means something like 'combat mission'. The rest is obvious.
'Dead-Cat' might refine the translation...
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Posted: April 03, 2004 12:31 am
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thank you! :D

The ship on this poster is Bismarck? :?:
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Posted: April 03, 2004 12:50 am
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[quote]The ship on this poster is Bismarck? [/quote]

All the ships in the row are identical. They are a generic representations. All German battleships had similar superstructure (Graf Spee, Gneisenau, Scharnhorst etc)
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Posted: April 03, 2004 12:54 am
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Hello! The ships on the poster seem to be stylized versions of the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau...note the triple turrets. This poster apparently makes use of images of the ships during the Channel Dash. On the night of 11 February 1942, Vizeadmiral Otto Ciliax, Commander of Battleships, led the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, the heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen, six destroyers, 14 torpedo boats and numerous smaller craft from Brest, France to begin their daring daylight dash to Germany— codenamed Operation “Cerebus”—through the English Channel. Protected by a heavy Luftwaffe fighter umbrella directed by Oberst Adolf Galland, the German ships successfully warded off determined British air and destroyer attacks. Although both the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were mined along the way, the squadron arrived in German waters on 13 February 1942.

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Posted: April 03, 2004 01:34 am
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The informaitons you guys provide are very valuable to me.
Thanks a lot!
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Posted: October 02, 2004 05:04 am
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I wouldn't try to take the ships depicted in the poster too literally. The poster is a propaganda poster, not something that is supposed to be an accurate representation of the ships involved.
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Posted: October 04, 2004 06:09 am
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Could anyone tell me some links to sites with complete data for "Z" class destroyers?
I tryed Google, but Google is now wat it was Altavista in her falling days - over 90 % of results is sites with scale models.... too commercial!


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Posted: October 04, 2004 11:54 am
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I suggest you try the www.german-navy.de site.
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Posted: October 04, 2004 05:36 pm
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"Z" is the first letter of the German word for destroyer, and was used to designate all destroyers. There were several different classes of destroyer in the German navy during W.W.2, all of which had a designation beginning with the letter "Z" (the designations were followed by the penant number of the first ship in that class (i.e. Z-1).

Anyone who has any interest W.W.2 naval topics should go buy a copy of Conway's All the World's Navies 1922-1946. They also produce is a similar volume for 1860-1905; 1905-1922; and post W.W.2. Those books are well-researched and give extensive technical details, as well as line-drawings or photos for all fighting ships down to and including PT Boats, S-Boats, and landing craft. They usually mention, but do not give details for tugs, barges and other auxilliary vessels.
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Posted: October 05, 2004 08:07 am
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Thanks tjk and Robert! I find www.german-navy.de some time ago, but in this site is just ... little quantity of words... I want some with more details, pictures, etc.
How much is the cost of this book, Robert? And where i can find it? At a book store, not on net... Amazon, etc.

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Posted: October 07, 2004 05:52 pm
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Naval Institute Press is currently selling it new for about $80.00 U.S.

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Posted: October 07, 2004 06:50 pm
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Ooops, I don't think that link came across in my last message.

The website for the Naval Institute Press is: www.usni.org. From there you can go to their webstore at: http://www.usni.org/webstore/webstore.html

Just type "Conway" as a search item under "books" and you should find it.

I believe that the Naval Institute Press is the publisher of Conways, as well as numerous other books on naval and aircraft matters.

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Posted: October 07, 2004 07:39 pm
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Conway is a great resource for military maritime research and i only can recommend it. i own the 1906-1921 warships volume. the only omission were the austro-hungarian river monitors, otherwise i found it very well researched and exhaustive.

on amazon.co.uk the 1980 edition sells for 31,50 GBP+shipping.
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Posted: December 24, 2004 07:32 am
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QUOTE (ragewolf @ Apr 2 2004, 07:31 PM)
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The ship on this poster is Bismarck? :?:

If we forget the fact that the poster is not supposed to offer accuracy:

Bismark and Tirpitz had 2 canons for every main turret, so a turret showing 3 canons per turret automatically cannot be on Bismark or Tirpitz !
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