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> The IAR 80 and the IAR 81 in ultimate detail, Wydawnictwo Stratus
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  Posted: October 20, 2014 05:06 am
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Radub, can you tell us some more details about the book ?! I mean like page, drawings, photos no. format, etc.
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Radub
Posted: October 21, 2014 08:29 am
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The format is A4, hardbound, 350 pages of good quality paper and print, almost 1000 photos and illustrations (both in black&white and colour), 60 colour profiles. The book includes scale 1/48 drawings of every version. All systems and structures are described in detail using photos, manual schematics and scale drawings.
Hopefully it will be released soon. Price to be announced. It will be available from Stratus, Mushroom Model Publications, Radubstore, Amazon, etc.
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Posted: October 21, 2014 09:42 am
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Hi Radu

While what you disclose is very interesting, my own wish is for individual details of every single aircraft built. Would the book include such a list?

Friendly greetings and Best Wishes from Sweden
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Posted: October 21, 2014 09:48 am
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QUOTE (Stig Jarlevik @ October 21, 2014 09:42 am)
Hi Radu

While what you disclose is very interesting, my own wish is for individual details of every single aircraft built. Would the book include such a list?

Friendly greetings and Best Wishes from Sweden
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A book containing the individual records of every aircraft built would be quite large.
A lot of that information would be quite bland because some planes saw little action. A list of victories and losses can be found in Dan Antoniu's book "Vanatorul I.A.R.80" published by Modelism in 2000 and the French translation published by Editions TMA.
My book contains a diagram showing the manufacturing dates.
Hth
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Posted: October 22, 2014 08:25 pm
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Wow, this is exciting! Any sort of estimate as to when it will be available, and any sort of idea as to price? Anything new about the DB equipped ones or the Gnome-Rhone 14R one? Thanks.
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Posted: October 23, 2014 09:16 am
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Availability and price are still to be announced. Hopefully we will find out soon.
Very little is known about the planes fitted with in-line engine or Gnome-Rhone 14R engine.
Whatever is known about them (very little...) is in this book, which is pretty much what was published before.
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Posted: October 24, 2014 10:14 am
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Congratulations, Radu B.!
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Posted: October 26, 2014 02:21 pm
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Thanks for the reply Radub. Just trying to figure out from the description, is it going to be a book aimed more at modelists (lots of drawings and details), or it will also include (and possibly re-examine and update based on new information?) the operational record of the plane during it's service in ARR? Will it contain many unseen (by the general public) pictures of the aircraft during it's manufacturing and service years?

Either way looking forward to when it will be published!
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Posted: October 26, 2014 05:58 pm
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For the operational record, I recommend Dan Antoniu's book on the I.A.R.80. He covered all that 14 years ago.
My book contains other details that Dan Antoniu did not include is his book, a lot of it is technical detail intended for modelers, but there is also historic information in the photo captions.
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Posted: October 29, 2014 09:23 am
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SOON, approx. 7 November! Price about 60

http://www.ww-model.pl/index.php?p12669,va...ultimate-detail
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Posted: October 29, 2014 09:23 pm
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You mean in a week?! Great!

To reply to Radub, first, thanks again for the details, fortunately i do have all 3 IAR-80 books published so far, in fact the romanian on was very generously given to me for free by Mr. Antoniu! Obviously, for modellers or not, any new books about IAR-80 or other romanian aircraft are very, very much welcomed.


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Posted: October 30, 2014 08:23 am
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QUOTE (lancer21 @ October 29, 2014 09:23 pm)
You mean in a week?! Great!

To reply to Radub, first, thanks again for the details, fortunately i do have all 3 IAR-80 books published so far, in fact the romanian on was very generously given to me for free by Mr. Antoniu! Obviously, for modellers or not, any new books about IAR-80 or other romanian aircraft are very, very much welcomed.

It is not a book "only" for modellers. The only "model-related" things in the book are the scale drawings. The book is detailed description of the I.A.R.80/81 looking at all versions, systems, production, how to fly the plane, how to maintain it, going all the way to photos of the bullets used. It has something for everyone. For the "historians", there are short "stories" and "histories" related to the planes or people in the photos.
The truth of the matter is that it is impossible to include everything in one book. Futhermore I thought there was no need to repeat what others wrote before. Dan Antoniu and George Cicos covered beautifully the operational record in their books - I could not "improve" on what they wrote anyway, so I concentrated on the rest. Dan Antoniu, George Cicos, Razvan Bujor and Dan Melinte were a major source of information for this book, it could not have been done without them.
Chances are that someone will still say that "something is missing" from this 350-page book. ;) Yes indeed, I have "more", but there comes a point (around 350 pages, 3 kg, maybe...) where you got to say "enough". :)
Hopefully the book will be launched in Telford on the 8th of November.
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Posted: October 31, 2014 12:00 am
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Just found this! That is MMPs official youtube page right? Btw, i think this is an absolutely fantastic idea, showing "from the distance" what the book contains (but can't read of course) yet make it even more enticing for those who really have interest in that subject.

I hope i'll get this for christmas a least. :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfDZAEpTxwo...2fcwtlo8J0CJ8FQ

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Posted: November 01, 2014 05:35 am
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QUOTE (lancer21 @ October 30, 2014 07:00 pm)
Just found this! That is MMPs official youtube page right? Btw, i think this is an absolutely fantastic idea, showing "from the distance" what the book contains (but can't read of course) yet make it even more enticing for those who really have interest in that subject.

I hope i'll get this for christmas a least. :o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfDZAEpTxwo...2fcwtlo8J0CJ8FQ

Indeed, it has something for everyone, including engineers.
A book worth buying it.

A photo that is available in Google Images that shows what was left from number 411 after crash landing (with two Soviet soldiers examining it) could be a good addition for the second edition.
What I find interesting in that photo is the fact that the "skin" was ripped of from the first half of the plane, but the internal components are still there: the fuel tank, the engine, the structural network of tubes etc.
Honestly, from that photo I learned the location of the fuel tank. Interesting idea to have the fuel tank right above the center of pressure of the wing. This means that the resultant of the total weight of airplane does not change position versus the resultant of lift, while the tank is depleted of fuel. Also the engine protects it from frontal hits, and some components and structural parts give some protection against below hits. What I feel as a very big NO is the location right in front of the cockpit. When set on fire, could have become a flame thrower targeting the pilot seat.

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