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Posted: February 04, 2013 04:01 pm
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Hi, I have come across four types of 13.2mm Heavy Machine Guns, all based on the Hotchkiss version I think, (not counting the ones mounted in AFVs), but all have slightly different data stats;

French; Hotchkiss 13.2mm mle 1930.
Calibre: 13.2mm
Barrel length: 1.670mm
Elevation: -10 to +90
Traverse: 360
Weight in action: 37.5 kg
Shell weight: 0.52 g
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Muzzle velocity: 700 m/s
Rate of fire: 450 rpm
Max range vertical: 1.250m
Max range horizontal: 6.500m

Romanian; 1.3cm M.1931.
Calibre: 13.2mm
Barrel length: 1.670mm
Elevation: -10 to +90
Traverse: 360
Weight in action: 37.5 kg
Shell weight: 51 g
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Muzzle velocity: 700 m/s
Rate of fire: 300 rpm
Max range vertical: 2.500m
Max range horizontal: 6.500m

Greek; 13.2mm M.1930.
Calibre: 13.2mm
Length of Barrel; 1.650mm
Elevation: -10 to +90
Traverse: 360
Weight in Action: 37.5 kg
Shell Weight: AP 0.52 kg
Magazine capacity; 15 x Round Strip
Muzzle velocity: 800 m/s.
Rate of Fire: 450 r.p.m.
Max range vertical: 4.500m
Max range Horizontal; 6.500m

Japanese; 13.2mm Type 93.
Caliber: 13.2mm
Barrel Length: 1.300m
Elevation; -15 to 58
Traverse: 360
Weight in Action: 42 kg
Shell Weight: ?
Magazine: 30 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: 800 m/s
Rate of Fire: 450 rpm
Max range vertical: 4.500m
Max range Horizontal; 6.500m

Italian; Breda Modello 1931.
Caliber: 13.2mm
Barrel Length: ?
Elevation; ?
Traverse: ?
Weight in Action: 47.5 kg
Shell Weight: ?
Magazine: 20-30 rounds
Muzzle Velocity: ?
Rate of Fire: 450 rpm
Max range vertical: ?
Max range Horizontal; ?

Its fair to say that each nation used a different type of ammo and a different type of feed (strip, belt or magazine), but things like barrel length and elevation should be similar.
Can anyone help me find out if they all should be identical or not.

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Posted: February 04, 2013 08:42 pm
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Romanian; 1.3cm M.1931.
Calibre: 13.2mm
Barrel length: 1.670mm
Elevation: -10 to +90
Traverse: 360
Weight in action: 37.5 kg
Shell weight: 51 g
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Muzzle velocity: 700 m/s
Rate of fire: 300 rpm
Max range vertical: 2.500m
Max range horizontal: 6.500m

i've never heard about it
what is your source?
where it was produced?

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Posted: February 05, 2013 08:53 am
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Romania used a 13.2 mm FN Browning machine gun with Hotchkiss cartridges. This was used on the Savoia bombers and the I.A.R.80-B.
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Posted: February 05, 2013 09:53 am
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Thanks Radub,

Hi Sebipatru, I got most of the data from this site, thanks to Victor of course.

www.worldwar2.ro, 1.3cm A.A. Machine Gun M.1931.

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Posted: February 05, 2013 11:13 am
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There was also this AA set-up: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?sh...pic=2509&st=30#
Most likely this is what you are looking for.
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Posted: February 05, 2013 04:13 pm
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Thank you Radu, there was also a nice shot of a 20mm Flak 30 with Romanian crew in the link too.

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Posted: February 05, 2013 06:40 pm
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Hi Sebipatru, I got most of the data from this site, thanks to Victor of course.

www.worldwar2.ro, 1.3cm A.A. Machine Gun M.1931.
but this is the standard model
you were talking about a romanian model or not?

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Romania used a 13.2 mm FN Browning machine gun with Hotchkiss cartridges. This was used on the Savoia bombers and the I.A.R.80-B.

yes they used a very very small number of it initially on savoia then we stripped the mg from bombers and mounted on iar 80 as far as i know
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Posted: February 08, 2013 10:10 am
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Hi Sebipatru, in my original post I was talking about various 13.2mm MGs used by the nations listed, so yes I was referring to the standard model used by Romania. Concerning the Romanian version, I heard they used both the single and duelled barrelled versions, but up to now I can only find photos of the duel barrelled gun.

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Posted: February 09, 2013 10:39 pm
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i understand initially i believed that it was a hmg built in Romania
also this weapon was used mounted on trucks as a mobile AA weapon i supose by tanks or cavalary

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