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Posted: September 19, 2011 09:28 pm
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Thread idea shamelessly stolen from another forum, basic idea is : post pictures of new books/magazines you've aquired.

If it won't encourage you to read more maybe it will encourage you to buy more :P

Feel free to ask any questions re price/origin, personally i've did some "heavy shopping" in the last 2 months , i just realized looking at the pics that i forgot to add stuff


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Posted: September 23, 2011 08:03 pm
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Here can I find the batailles aerienes nr 25 ? and at wat price ? And the other books ?
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Posted: September 24, 2011 01:00 pm
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No, i had to buy B. Aeriennes from ebay, the others are from Diverta, street sellers, Editura Militara, Modelism and some bought from forums.
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Posted: September 27, 2011 06:33 pm
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I just bought last week Kiritescu's famous book about Romania in ww1, three volumes. I paid 90 lei for all three to a street vendor, I dont know if it was the fair price. Hard covers, very good shape.
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  Posted: September 28, 2011 01:32 pm
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Hey, 20 euros for a 3-volumes hard-cover book? It's a good price, IMO! :o
Its historical value, however... that's another thing... <_<
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Posted: September 28, 2011 07:17 pm
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QUOTE (MMM @ September 28, 2011 03:32 pm)
Its historical value, however... that's another thing... <_<

What do you mean about it's historical value? It has some historical value or not?The book was printed in 1920's and has a handwriting saying that it use to belong to a certain engineer in 1927.
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Posted: September 28, 2011 08:15 pm
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QUOTE (21 inf @ September 27, 2011 06:33 pm)
I just bought last week Kiritescu's famous book about Romania in ww1, three volumes. I paid 90 lei for all three to a street vendor, I dont know if it was the fair price. Hard covers, very good shape.

Sounds like a rip-off. :(
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Posted: September 28, 2011 09:40 pm
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QUOTE (21 inf @ September 28, 2011 07:17 pm)

What do you mean about it's historical value? It has some historical value or not?The book was printed in 1920's and has a handwriting saying that it use to belong to a certain engineer in 1927.

I have the edition issued in two volumes in 1989. In as far as I know, it is the best reference about Romanian involvement in WW1. I am also curious what are the "problems" with it.
As for the price, in 1989, Vol. 1 was priced 61 lei Vol. 2 was priced 69 lei, a total of 130 lei.
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Posted: September 29, 2011 03:44 am
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I also know that it is the best reference for WW1 in Romania, that's why I bought it.
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Posted: September 29, 2011 11:36 am
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Why do you presume I meant bad things when I posted about the historical value? It is almost a century old!!!!! :o
As for the value as a history book, that's another thing! My personal oppinion is that Kiriţescu's style is too... patriotic, let's say..., but the facts are facts, regardless the favourable angle in which some of them are written. I've also read through the 1989 edition and I liked the info's, but not so much the "heroics" and stuff, because the state of the Romanian Army in WWI was quite bad, IMO...
Bye - and remember: I mean no harm! :roll:

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Posted: September 29, 2011 11:51 am
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QUOTE (MMM @ September 29, 2011 11:36 am)
[SNIP] It is almost a century old!!!!! :o

Fortunately, the book was written within five years after the end of WW1 when memories were fresh and veterans were still alive. That is priceless.
We never had the chance to do the same after WW2 because those veterans that were not in a Gulag were too scared of Securitate to speak. Now, we can interview these veterans, but they forgot so much.
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Posted: September 29, 2011 12:17 pm
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QUOTE (Radub @ September 29, 2011 11:51 am)
QUOTE (MMM @ September 29, 2011 11:36 am)
[SNIP]  It is almost a century old!!!!!  :o

Fortunately, the book was written within five years after the end of WW1 when memories were fresh and veterans were still alive. That is priceless.
We never had the chance to do the same after WW2 because those veterans that were not in a Gulag were too scared of Securitate to speak. Now, we can interview these veterans, but they forgot so much.
Radu

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Posted: September 30, 2011 06:50 pm
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QUOTE (MMM @ September 29, 2011 01:36 pm)
Why do you presume I meant bad things when I posted about the historical value? It is almost a century old!!!!!  :o
As for the value as a history book, that's another thing! My personal oppinion is that Kiriţescu's style is too... patriotic, let's say..., but the facts are facts, regardless the favourable angle in which some of them are written. I've also read through the 1989 edition and I liked the info's, but not so much the "heroics" and stuff, because the state of the Romanian Army in WWI was quite bad, IMO...
Bye - and remember: I mean no harm!  :roll:

I didnt presumed that you meant bad things about it's historical value, I was just curious on your opinion. I know that you didnt wanted to harm. No harm taken :D

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Posted: October 01, 2011 10:19 am
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I looked through the book again today. What a great book! I can only dream of a similar book about the Romanian involvement in WW2. In fact, Kiritzescu's two-volume book about WW1 is on my shelf right next to the three-volume book about "Romania in WW2" published also in 1989 by a "committee of historical researchers". What pile of dirge. The Romanian involvement in Russia is treated so briefly in the first volume, that you blink and you may miss it. Germany is described as "occupier of Romania". Volume 2 is dedicated entirely to anything after 23 August (and, oh, how great the comunists were!) and volume 3 is dedicated to how great the Communist Party was (led by the beloved son of the nation, Nicolae Ceausescu). Rubbish!
In contrast, Kiritzescu's book covers everything, the geopolitical situation, alliances, every battle, every action, and the aftermath. The timeline of events at the end of the book is so enlightening. Such a superb book! It also mentions things that "nationalists" may find difficult to digest such as the fact that Romania was invaded, lost a large chunk of its territory, the government and Royal household went into exile, Romania fought back, lost the war, was forced to sign a surrender (Pacea de la Bucuresti), then declared war again just a few hours before the Armistice. Also, I found it almost impossible to believe that in a book printed in Romania in 1989 there was a section dedicated to the monumental disaster that was what in 1989 was actually celebrated as "Marea Revolutie Socialista din Octombrie". The Russian Revolution is described in the book as the cause of the collapse of the Russian Army, the source of indiscipline and mutiny among the Russian Army and the main thing that eventually led Romania to lose the war. One must appreciate the courage of the publisher to describe in such detail what in effect was tragedy and a disaster for humanity at a time when the communists celebrated that as a victory and a great thing for the humanity!
I did not find much "overzealous patriotism" in the book. It seems to be actually "cold", factual and to the point. There is some wax-lyrical stuff about Ecaterina Teodoroiu, but that is about it. There is no praise of the "leader" or the "political party". There is no trace of that "how great are we" slimey grime that cretins call "nationalism" today. But there are stories of battles lost, poor equipment, bad conditions, famine, pestilence, tragedy and victory against all odds. And that was the truth.
If anything Kiritzescu's book MUST be used as a template to write the true history of Romanian involvement in WW2.
This book should be reissued and given free with the newspapers likew they do with other books these days.
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Posted: October 02, 2011 10:49 am
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QUOTE (Radub @ October 01, 2011 01:19 pm)
If anything Kiritzescu's book MUST be used as a template to write the true history of Romanian involvement in WW2.

Well, the book written by him about WWII seems a little different from the one we're talking in here! Indeed, it was "edited" by his son, but... so much for the template! :(
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