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> Romanian in Bucovine, Pocutia, Transcarpatia, Intervention 1918-1919, OdB
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Posted: December 15, 2010 01:17 pm
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Hi,
I'm searching information about Romanian troops that participated in intervention:
- November 1918 in Bucovina (8 Inf. Div. gen Iacob Zadic?)
- May 1919 in Pocutia (also 8 Inf. Div. gen Iacob Zadic?)

Do you know their detailed OdB? What was their (particular regiments) disloctation before and after intervention? What wos their strenght (men, armour, cannons?)

Which troops (regiments) was send to Hungary from Pocutia after stablisation (June 1919)?

And the last question - which troops was intervetning against Hutsul Republic when they attack from Yasina -> Sighetu Marmaţiei -> Hust. I'va got information that some part of Romanian Division that stayed in Satu Mare intervened against Hutsul marching to Hust. Do you know some details about this troops (number of Division, particular Regiment?)
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Posted: January 14, 2011 08:26 pm
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Hallo, Czupur, I try to give you some information.
At 27 October 1918, Constitutional Assembly decides Bukovina"s union with Romania and call King Ferdinand to sent troops to assure order against bands of former austro-hungarians prisoners who came back from Russia, and against some bands of Ukrainians, many of them bolsheviks.
In 6th November first police troops croos the former border, and at 8th the first units from Romanian 8th Division, who came from 3 directions to Cernauti.
During this time, a Romanian AH unit led by Ilie Lazar (later member in Romanian Parliament) who deserted from Galician front, captured a train and arrived in Cernauti. Members of Constitutional Assembly send delegates to Ilie Lazar and asked him to give them protection against those bands of marauders. Lazars men, wearing AH uniforms, deployed themselves in key points in Chisinau, waiting for Romanian army, who arrived in 11 November.
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Posted: January 14, 2011 08:30 pm
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This oficer and his regiment was in Bucovina http://enciclopediaromaniei.ro/w/index.php...scu&redirect=no

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Posted: January 14, 2011 08:51 pm
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- May 1919 in Pocutia (also 8 Inf. Div. gen Iacob Zadic?)


Romanian troops intervened in pocutia during 23 May - 25 August 1919.
In 13 May begins fighting between Polish and Ukrainan forces. Polish troops reached at 20 May with their right flank river Stryj, croosed it and advanced to Sanislaw. With not enough troops, they asked Romanian ally to advance south of Dniestr to reach Tumacz - Ottynia - Sodzavish line and conquer Delatyn.
Analizing this request, Romanian Staff approved intervention because of the absolute necesity to mantain link between Romanian troops in Bukovina and those in Northern Transylvania (railroad Cernauti - Colomeea - Korosmezo - Sighet) and to interdict Ukrainan bolsheviks troops to infiltrate and make a link with bolsheviks who were north from Tisa, in Maramures, who could later became a threat to right wing and rear of Romanian troops in Transylvania.
Genearl Petala ordered 8th Division to advance between Dniestr (Nistru) and mountains until reach Nadvorna - Ottynia - Niezviska line and Northern Transylvanian Group to reach the comunication line between Kolomeea and Sighet.
To prevent fightings against Petiluras men (antibolsheviks), he sent to Petliura Headquarters a complete information about Romanian intentions.
In 23 May, 8th Division, 8th Vanatori Regiment, 3 and 8 Rosiori (Cavalery), with one artillery batterycroosed the border and advanced in Oraseni - Horodenka - Kolomeea direction. Right flank (2 battalions, one battery and one cavallery escadron) on Kisseleu - Horodenka - Nieszviska direction. Left flank (2 battalions, one battery, one cavallery regiment and one genius) on Vasacuti - Zalucze and Visnita - Kuti - Kosov.
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Posted: January 14, 2011 09:06 pm
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Northern Group from Romanian troops in Transylvania sent one battalion (from Reg 10 Vt), one esc (from reg 7 Rosiori) and 2 mountain artillery batteries (from gen Olteanu Detachament) on Sighet - Trebuza - Korosmezo - Kolomeea direction, with mission to reach the mountains heights (former border between Bukovina and Hungary) Link between this troops and 8th Division was made in Worochta and Tatarov.
Polish troops took Stanislaw, and gen Zadic and Polish gen Kraliczek (commander of 4th Polish Division) met in Ottinya, and a link between Romanian and Polish troops was estabilished. Romanian evacuation from Pocutia begins in 17 August and ended in 25 August 1919.
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Posted: January 15, 2011 06:13 am
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QUOTE (contras @ January 14, 2011 03:51 pm)
.........Analizing this request, Romanian Staff approved intervention because of the absolute necesity to mantain link between Romanian troops in Bukovina and those in Northern Transylvania (railroad Cernauti - Colomeea - Korosmezo - Sighet) and to interdict Ukrainan bolsheviks troops to infiltrate and make a link with bolsheviks who were north from Tisa, in Maramures, who could later became a threat to right wing and rear of Romanian troops in Transylvania.
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Were the Ukrainians Bolsheviks ? I am just curious.
It goes as obvious that they were nationalists and hating both the Poles and Romanians. But if they were Bolsheviks, why were they attacked, defeated and conquered by Lenin's Bolsheviks ?
The Ukrainians hoped in that moment to survive as an independent state, separate from Lenin's Bolshevik Russia. They issued postal stamps in 1918...1919 (I have 3 of them :) ) and they had paper money printed in Germany (This I learned on this website.)

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Posted: January 15, 2011 12:28 pm
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It goes as obvious that they were nationalists and hating both the Poles and Romanians. But if they were Bolsheviks, why were they attacked, defeated and conquered by Lenin's Bolsheviks ?


The nationalists (under Petliura) were fighting against ucrainean Bolsheviks (there was a civil war in Ukraine, too). Petliura asked from help to Central Powers to defeat them.
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Posted: January 15, 2011 12:46 pm
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Look at Machno and his troops, they changed sides so many times, that were weeks when nobody knows against whom Machno fights.
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