Romanian fighters on the drawing board

Did the Romanian Air Force have any fighter designs that were not built or only started? Perhaps "follow ons to the IAR 81" or heavy fighter designs?

Dave G
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There was an IAR 80 with an DB engine.
It was a failure.

This test engine mentioned by you was the radial air-cooled installed on FW-190, right?

This post has been edited by Florin on March 26, 2011 02:46 am

Nope,in 1941,it was water cooled,inline DB 601 A

The IAR K.14 has 540 kg. The Daimler Benz type 601 has 700 kg. Moreover, the center of weight of the star engine is closer to the propeller than the center of weight of the in-line engine. To keep everything in balance, the needed change of overall geometry would result in a new type of plane, different from IAR-80.
I am not surprised that "It was a failure", to use the words of C-2.

Besides the IAR-80 no. 13 that was fitted with the DB 601 A and was a total failure (test carried on 21 April 1941), in June 1943, the IAR-80 no. 326 was fitted with a DB 605A engine and performed several successful tests. Daimler however turned down the order placed by Romania, because it did not have enough capacity for production.

Another project was the IAR-47, which was supposed to replace the IAR-37/38/39s in the observation squadrons.

The shortage of Daimler Benz 605 engines was also a problem for the Italians, who designed some good fighter planes based on this engine, and then they could not make more than several dozens of them, because the Germans had no available engines.

This post has been edited by Florin on March 27, 2011 03:15 pm

The DB 605A engine was also licence produced at I.A.R. Brasov Works, albeit in small numbers.

Gen. Dénes

Yes, but then it was intended for the Bf-109Gs also produced by IAR.

Victor, didn't you say that there was a Romanian engineer that could have improved the K.14 engine to higher HP at one time but he was fired or retired during the war?

He was fired prior to the war and ended up at Gnome-Rhone. I can't recall the name right now. I will have to search it through some old magazines.

This is the so-called "Afacerea Carp". http://www.lovendal.net/wp52/afacerea-carp...da-interbelica/
Some sources claim that Eng. P. Carp improved the performance of the engine. Other sources claim that eng. P. Carpr falsified the evidence to give the impression that the performance of the engine was improved. The truth may be somewhere in the middle...
HTH
Radu

Okay thanks for the information guys.

Wasn’t there also a series of trials (aborted, from what I know) of a IAR 80 with a Junkers Jumo engine, similar with those used for the Savoia-Marchetti JRS 79? I remember reading something about that in a “Modelism” or “Top Gun” magazine, some years ago…

This post has been edited by Agarici on April 14, 2011 06:01 am

In discussions with Manicatide Radu,there was one -80 with an GR of 1600 HP,but was destroyed durring bombing in 1944.No -80 with Jumo.