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> Dennis Deletant - Aliatul uitat, Have any of you read it?
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Posted: March 17, 2009 04:03 pm
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Has anybody read that book yet? I know Deletant wrote some stuff about the history of communism in Romania, but this seems to be a well-documented book on Antonescu (well, not only, but he's the forgotten ally) and the Romanian-German alliance.
Which brings me to something maybe more suitable for general discussion: how competent do you think foreign writers/historians are? I mean, they may be not biased (don't have tri-coloured goggles, as somebody said on this forum), but also may lack some knowledge accesible only to Romanians (or at least Romanian-speaking researchers)?


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Posted: March 17, 2009 06:30 pm
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QUOTE (MMM @ March 17, 2009 04:03 pm)
Has anybody read that book yet? I know Deletant wrote some stuff about the history of communism in Romania, but this seems to be a well-documented book on Antonescu (well, not only, but he's the forgotten ally) and the Romanian-German alliance.
Which brings me to something maybe more suitable for general discussion: how competent do you think foreign writers/historians are? I mean, they may be not biased (don't have tri-coloured goggles, as somebody said on this forum), but also may lack some knowledge accesible only to Romanians (or at least Romanian-speaking researchers)?

Dennis Deletant is very close to Romania in heart and spirit.
He speaks Romanian fluently without any accent.
I have no doubt about his "good intentions" towards Romania and all things Romanian.
He is also a very good researcher and a respected academic, so he knows what he is doing. Google him, there is plenty out there about him.
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Posted: March 17, 2009 07:06 pm
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I know all that, but I was surprised to find out he's interested in the ww2 years...
I managed to put my hands on the book and I'll even read it these days! smile.gif laugh.gif


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Posted: March 17, 2009 07:33 pm
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I have the book in its original edition, in English.

I read it several years ago. I remember that I was somewhat disappointed, because the author tackled the issue more from the political, and not military, perspective. Also, there are gaps in the story line. Nevertheless, it's a refence book.

As for foreign authors, they indeed can be (more) impartial and unbiased than local ones - with some exceptions, of course, from both sides. Working knowledge of Rumanian is a must, though, as is a perspective on Rumanian history and people, in general.

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Posted: March 17, 2009 07:37 pm
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I also have the book, but is under many more that await to be read. Given its more political nuance, I don't think I will read it any time soon. Probably next year.
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Posted: March 17, 2009 07:57 pm
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I found in its first pages a refference to "Third Axis, Fourth Ally", by Axworthy. Is it worthy? smile.gif


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Posted: March 18, 2009 07:23 am
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QUOTE (MMM @ March 17, 2009 09:57 pm)
I found in its first pages a refference to "Third Axis, Fourth Ally", by Axworthy. Is it worthy? smile.gif

It's the best published English language source on the Romanian Army in WWII. In some respects it's even better than many Romanian language works.
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Posted: March 18, 2009 09:45 am
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QUOTE (MMM @ March 17, 2009 07:57 pm)
Is it worthy?

Yes it is. smile.gif
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Posted: March 18, 2009 12:01 pm
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I found in its first pages a refference to "Third Axis, Fourth Ally", by Axworthy. Is it worthy? 


Worthy but hard to find dry.gif
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Posted: March 18, 2009 12:21 pm
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Recently, it has been re-released in a soft cover edition.

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Posted: March 18, 2009 04:04 pm
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hard to find

Actually, I found it on the Universitary Library in Iasi. So I'll photocopy it...


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Posted: March 26, 2009 11:34 am
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QUOTE (Dénes @ March 17, 2009 07:33 pm)
gaps in the story line

For example, the Battle of Odessa or the SU offensive in august 1944, right?


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  Posted: April 07, 2009 11:15 am
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Worthy but hard to find 

Not quite.
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Recently, it has been re-released in a soft cover edition.

Right !!
You may buy it directly from the editor:
http://www.hailerpublishing.com/3rdaxis.html
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Back to Dennis Deletant: for all of you who have read the book: what is your oppinion about the Jewish "problem" as presented in there?


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Posted: April 08, 2009 01:55 pm
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QUOTE (MMM @ April 08, 2009 01:29 pm)
Back to Dennis Deletant: for all of you who have read the book: what is your oppinion about the Jewish "problem" as presented in there?

Again. There are already existing topics on this subject. Use them! Don't go offtopic into this one.
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