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> What fighter plane do you think Romania should use?
 
What fighter plane do you think Romania should use?
MIG 29 [ 19 ]  [14.96%]
F 16 [ 28 ]  [22.05%]
a new IAR design, built here [ 36 ]  [28.35%]
JAS-39 [ 59 ]  [46.46%]
Su-27 [ 17 ]  [13.39%]
Mirage 2000 [ 3 ]  [2.36%]
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MMM
  Posted on November 16, 2012 05:34 pm
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Re: F-35:
Pentagon hackers attack F-35
Really interesting: IMHO, someone upstairs has a small grudge against Lockheed Martin...
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Imperialist
Posted on December 04, 2012 11:17 pm
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Looks like Romania has serious "pile" in the F-35 program. :lol:

http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=11932

He might be Romanian-born or might have Romanian ancestors judging by his name (Bogdan). And on December 6 he will be named head of the F-35 program.

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Posted on December 05, 2012 08:41 am
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"Bogdan" is a Slavic name and it means "God given" (same meaning as the Greek Theodore/Tudor). It is used by many nations, so this does not mean much. The F-35 is quite pricey. No amount of "name-based corruption" will make it cheaper. ;)
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  Posted on December 05, 2012 06:32 pm
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QUOTE (Imperialist @ December 05, 2012 02:17 am)
Looks like Romania has serious "pile" in the F-35 program. :lol:

http://www.af.mil/information/bios/bio.asp?bioID=11932

He might be Romanian-born or might have Romanian ancestors judging by his name (Bogdan). And on December 6 he will be named head of the F-35 program.

You are NOT serious... First of all, the simple fact that he's named "Bogdan" will not indicate a Romanian origin, but more likely a Slavic one (as Radub pointed out); but most of all, I do not think that in USA things go like that, in what concerns military equipment. As for the F35 programme, I doubt we'll see it in USAF anytime soon, not to mention RoAF...
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Iulian
Posted on April 26, 2013 08:04 am
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last minute , deal !
http://www.thelocal.se/26106/20100416/#.UXozRcrLviC

sorry it was old .....

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Posted on April 27, 2013 01:37 pm
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The story is from 3 years ago. Anyway, the deal is now clear: 12 F-16 A/B from Portugal. That's all we can afford at the moment.
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Posted on April 28, 2013 12:35 pm
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I am affraid that the first F16 arriving in Romania will be assigned to Romanian Aviation Museum

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Hadrian
Posted on April 28, 2013 08:23 pm
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That is pathetic. We would be better zero houring our Migs an fly them another 10 years, until we have the money to buy something decent. And then we need at least two squadrons plus some double seaters, not 12...

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Posted on April 29, 2013 03:19 pm
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QUOTE (Hadrian @ April 28, 2013 11:23 pm)
That is pathetic. We would be better zero houring our Migs an fly them another 10 years, until we have the money to buy something decent. And then we need at least two squadrons plus some double seaters, not 12...

No, it's not pathetic! It's politics! Just that simple...
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Posted on October 11, 2013 07:29 pm
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http://www.realitatea.net/romania-a-semnat...16_1290645.html

Unfortunately in romanian. Also unfortunately, we signed the contract.
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Posted on October 12, 2013 06:37 am
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QUOTE (Hadrian @ October 11, 2013 02:29 pm)
http://www.realitatea.net/romania-a-semnat...16_1290645.html

Unfortunately in romanian. Also unfortunately, we signed the contract.

Somebody in Romania got a big pile of money into his personal pocket.
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Posted on October 13, 2013 10:43 am
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QUOTE (Florin @ October 12, 2013 08:37 am)
Somebody in Romania got a big pile of money into his personal pocket.

Although I haven't followed the subject very closely, my impression is that it's more of a political deal, than one involving bribes. Do you have any particular reason for this conclusion?
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Posted on October 13, 2013 09:49 pm
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More than anything, Romania needs to keep its pilots "operational". Pilots need to fly a set number of hours to maintain their flying status. The Lancers are coming to the end of their operational lives. The Lancers cannot be "patched", "revived", "reshaped", "re-engineered". This is it. They have a set number of allowed flying hours before metal fatigue makes them break apart. That set number of hours is coming to an end. Romania cannot afford expensive planes. It needs planes. Any planes. So it will have to buy cheap planes. This may be the most cost-effective way to keep the pilots "active". It is a crummy deal by any stretch of imagination. But crummy as it is, it may make ends meet for a while in the hope that somehow things will improve eventually and money will become available to purchase some new hardware. The sad truth is that no one can tell when the "better times" will come and what planes Romania may afford then.
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Posted on October 14, 2013 01:57 am
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QUOTE (Victor @ October 13, 2013 05:43 am)
QUOTE (Florin @ October 12, 2013 08:37 am)
Somebody in Romania got a big pile of money into his personal pocket.

Although I haven't followed the subject very closely, my impression is that it's more of a political deal, than one involving bribes. Do you have any particular reason for this conclusion?

No, other than the life experience of somebody living seven years in Romania post-December 1989 and keeping in touch with his native country. At this latter part I could / I should do better, but whatever.
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Posted on October 14, 2013 07:53 am
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QUOTE (Florin @ October 14, 2013 01:57 am)
QUOTE (Victor @ October 13, 2013 05:43 am)
QUOTE (Florin @ October 12, 2013 08:37 am)
Somebody in Romania got a big pile of money into his personal pocket.

Although I haven't followed the subject very closely, my impression is that it's more of a political deal, than one involving bribes. Do you have any particular reason for this conclusion?

No, other than the life experience of somebody living seven years in Romania post-December 1989 and keeping in touch with his native country. At this latter part I could / I should do better, but whatever.

If you think logically, this "bribe" theory just makes no sense. Assuming for just one fraction of a second that a "bribe" is all that was needed, it stands to reason that the "bigger bribe" would win the bid. There are much bigger players in this game who can pay bigger bribes.
Face it, Romania can only afford those planes. Yeah, you can dream of Ferrari but no one can bribe you into buying a Ferrari if all you can afford is a Dacia.
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