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Posted: January 27, 2008 04:36 pm
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Hi everybody. I have an austro-hungarian bronze medal " The Crown Jubilee Medal of 1898" celebrating 50 years since Franz Josef started ruling Austro-Hungaria. You can see it here:www.medal-medaille.com/index.php?cPath=31
I was wondering if you have any idea where i could find a ribbon for it.
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Posted: July 13, 2008 03:34 pm
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Hi..
It dependes if its version for civil or armed forces...
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Posted: July 13, 2008 07:19 pm
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I also want to buy one, like one in the picture. It belonged to a person in my family, I have only the medal.

(IMG:http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6417/poza15hzjx3.jpg)
(IMG:http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6417/poza15hzjx3.b813b70469.jpg)
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Posted: July 14, 2008 09:24 am
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Claudiu1988: Also you need ribbon for Jubilee Cross 1908 for military persons..
Looks like the one on the left side... I think I have one original ribbon somewhere..
(IMG:http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/8527/etujevp6.th.jpg)
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Posted: July 14, 2008 09:52 am
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I made a mistake, I don't need a ribbon for the "The Crown Jubilee Medal of 1898". I need a ribbon for the one in the picture "Jubilee Cross 1908".

If you find it I will buy it, thabks for the help
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Posted: July 14, 2008 11:40 am
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Claudiu1988: I have looked, I have only plastic one, but a friend (A-H decorations collector too) should have one, sa I have wrote him mail, will let you know.. ;)
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Posted: July 15, 2008 09:04 am
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There was a guy selling reproduction Austrian K.u.K period Ribbons

in Brasov last year at the Collectors Day,

I will be there on the 19th July and will see if he has any.

They are not so expensive, but of a slightly thicker material than the original.

But they look good for displays.

Kevin in Deva. :D
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Posted: July 15, 2008 09:18 am
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Hallo Messerschmidt.

The ribbon on the medal on the link you provided is incorrect, there was no ribbon for the "widows of soldiers killed :roll: " for the Austrian medal, and certainly not the Nazi WW2 ribbon for the 13 March 1938 Occupation of Austria Medal.

You need:-
(IMG:http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4688/snc13657le7.jpg)

(IMG:http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/1728/snc13658qo6.jpg)

One is the for military the other for Civil issue, from my own collection.

Kevin in Deva. :D
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Posted: July 15, 2008 09:27 am
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New Connaught Ranger: I am sorry, but you are wrong... Both medals you have are civil issues.. Only the red ribbon there is incorrect.. should be white-red ribbon too.... ;)
Claudiu1988: If you want a copy ribbon, it is much cheaper if you buy it in Romania, only postal costs from Slovakia to Romania will be higher as the price of copy.... If you want original, wait one day, tomorrow I will get photo of that ribbon and U can write if you want it or not... :D
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Posted: July 15, 2008 01:30 pm
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QUOTE (Iver @ July 15, 2008 09:27 am)
New Connaught Ranger: I am sorry, but you are wrong... Both medals you have are civil issues.. Only the red ribbon there is incorrect.. should be white-red ribbon too.... ;)
Claudiu1988: If you want a copy ribbon, it is much cheaper if you buy it in Romania, only postal costs from Slovakia to Romania will be higher as the price of copy.... If you want original, wait one day, tomorrow I will get photo of that ribbon and U can write if you want it or not... :D

Hallo Iver, :D

please post pictures showing the difference between

the Civil Medal and the Military Medal.:roll:

The Jubilee Medal for the 50th Anniversary of the Kaiser's reign (1848-1898),

commonly called the "Signum Memoriae" medal.

For military personnel it is all red.

The civil version is half red / half white.

Kevin in Deva. :D
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Posted: July 15, 2008 01:38 pm
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New Connaught Ranger: The colour of the ribbon is not the only difference between civil and miltary version...
It is THE TEXT ON FRONT SIDE OF MEDAL!!!

Civil: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVST.REX BOH.ETC.ET REX AP.HVNG
Military: FRANC.IOS.I.D.G.IMP.AVSTR.REX.BOH.ETC.AC.AP.REX.HVNG

See the difference? ;)

You have two civil medals...

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Posted: July 15, 2008 02:14 pm
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I need to see pictures of this, difference, as I can find no reference to it anywhere or in my books. And you are contradicting information that has been written about these medals.

But, I do know, that the K.u.K Austro-Hungarian Empire utilized the same exact same medals, but with different ribbons for more than one purpose.

Kevin in Deva. :D
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Posted: July 15, 2008 02:21 pm
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Here is photo of military version...

(IMG:http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9923/2adw1.th.jpg)

compare the text above head of FJI with text on your medals and you will see it.. I hope..
Civil and military medals are NOT THE SAME!!!

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Posted: July 15, 2008 02:36 pm
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QUOTE (Iver @ July 15, 2008 02:21 pm)
Here is photo of military version...

(IMG:http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9923/2adw1.th.jpg)

compare the text above head of FJI with text on your medals and you will see it.. I hope..

Civil and military medals are NOT THE SAME!!!


Err..... there is no need to shout, I am not deaf,

with the picture all is clear, I cannot understand how this difference has not been

spotted / mentioned / talked about before.

Can you give a translation of the Latin motto's being used and their meaning?

Of course you know now I will have to start hunting for the military version :P

More hard work for an old man :lol:

However I do feel I have the right ribbons for the two medals

a civil ribbon and a military ribbon

Kevin in Deva,
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Posted: July 15, 2008 02:59 pm
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I wrote it with big letters, because i cant understand, why it wasnt in your books... :unsure:

Try this book: Koláčný, Ivan: Řády a vyznamenání Habsburské monarchie, Elka Press, Praha, 2006
It is in czech language, but with english, german, french and russian resume...

I think it is no problem to get the military version, they are more common then civil... I have 3 free peaces if you want... :)

It means (civil): Franc Josef I. Dei gratia rex imperator avstrie, rex bohemiae, etc. et apostolic rex hungarie - franc josph I., of gods will emperor of austria, king of bohemia (czech), etc. and apostolic king of hungary...
on military its the same text, but using not word ET (and) but word AC. that means the same...
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