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Posted: February 24, 2011 10:34 pm
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so the germans were inspired by rromas.
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Posted: February 26, 2011 08:36 am
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QUOTE (Florin @ February 24, 2011 05:46 am)
When I was in primary school and high school, I could witness in the language the expression "I-a mardit una" / "I-am mardit una", which can be translated only by its meaning. It meant "He kicked one hit in his jaw / head" / "I kicked one hit in his jaw / head".

Many years later, after using Internet in the U.S., I learned about the German self propelled gun "Marder", which was issued to the Romanian Army as well. The verb "a mardi" or "a mardit" cannot be found in a Romanian dictionary (maybe only in "Dictionar de argou", published before 1989; also, I may be wrong with this title).
I guess its usage started after the Romanian soldiers witnessed the "Marder" in action.

The Marder was never in use with the Romanian Army.
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Posted: February 26, 2011 11:53 am
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There are plenty of other examples of German words used in Romanian that can be traced to warfare equipment

http://dexonline.ro/definitie/brand "Brand" = punch / Brand = Mortar
http://dexonline.ro/definitie/doxă "Doxa" = precise knowledge / "Doxa" = precise mechanism
http://dexonline.ro/definitie/tais "Tzais" = formidable / "Zeiss" = lenses
http://dexonline.ro/definitie/crup "Crup" = cannon drunk / "Krupp" = cannon

There may be more.
But "mardeala" is not German. And neither is "mishto". :roll:

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Posted: January 05, 2012 01:54 pm
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QUOTE (Radub @ February 26, 2011 11:53 am)
{...}And neither is "mishto". :roll:

Hmmm ... why are you so sure about this ? :roll:
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Posted: January 05, 2012 02:03 pm
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QUOTE (IoanTM @ January 05, 2012 01:54 pm)
QUOTE (Radub @ February 26, 2011 11:53 am)
{...}And neither is "mishto".  :roll:

Hmmm ... why are you so sure about this ? :roll:

Because I have German friends whodk not know what "misto" means or what the connection may be with German.
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Posted: January 05, 2012 02:21 pm
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QUOTE (Radub @ January 05, 2012 02:03 pm)
QUOTE (IoanTM @ January 05, 2012 01:54 pm)
QUOTE (Radub @ February 26, 2011 11:53 am)
{...}And neither is "mishto".  :roll:

Hmmm ... why are you so sure about this ? :roll:

Because I have German friends whodk not know what "misto" means or what the connection may be with German.
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Hmmm ... not necessary a correct argument - because the romanian language "adapted" the german words "mit stock".
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Posted: January 05, 2012 02:52 pm
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It is exactly the right argument. I know the "myth" and I asked them if "with stick" was ever a by-word for "good"/"nice" and they said no - to keep in with the "myth" the correct term is "mit Wanderstab".
DEX states that "misto" is of Gypsy origin.
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Posted: January 05, 2012 02:59 pm
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QUOTE (Radub @ January 05, 2012 02:52 pm)
It is exactly the right argument. I know the "myth" and I asked them if "with stick" was ever a by-word for "good"/"nice" and they said no - to keep in with the "myth" the correct term is "mit Wanderstab".
{...}

OK - the version of the myth which I know is that going to walk with a "simple" stick was somehow ... common and usual but to have a "walking-stick with ( silver ) upper-part" was ... something really "cool". :)

And AFAIK "mit stock" means something like this ...

And BTW - I'm not sure at all that "misto" is a "true&original" gypsy word or one borrowed from them from romanian language as well - for example the following online resource doesn't mention it and indicate another word for "good" : http://www.larp.com/jahavra/language.html :roll:

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Posted: January 05, 2012 03:24 pm
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I trust DEX.
As I told you, I know the "myth" and the word for that kind of "nice" walking stick is not "Stock" but "Wanderstab" or "Spazierstock".
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Posted: January 05, 2012 06:40 pm
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QUOTE (Radub @ January 05, 2012 03:24 pm)
I trust DEX.

Well ... at this aspect ( possible borrows from gypsy language ) I don't trust DEX. :)
And as long as there is debatable if this word is "genuine gypsy" one I'm even more in doubt about this.

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As I told you, I know the "myth" and the word for that kind of "nice" walking stick is not "Stock" but "Wanderstab" or "Spazierstock".


The second version still keep a possible link. Anyway ... this is generally speaking irrelevant. Best regards.
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Posted: January 05, 2012 10:27 pm
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Well, the DEX is the "standard" for Romanian language.
http://dexonline.ro/definitie/mișto
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Posted: May 12, 2012 10:38 am
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As i heard it, in the beginning of the century it was a new fashion trend, from the german fashion houses in Bucharest, you are bad-ass gentleman if you have a "stock", also it was the eternal dogs problem. Great gadget.

The DEX needs to revised all the time...
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