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Andreas von Mach
Posted: October 24, 2003 10:27 am
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In 1940 Romania lost nerly 30 per cent of territorium, also access to Dniestr river was lost.
I think that here were also ships , at least merchant , lost to Soviets.
Have somebody lists of ships transferred to Soviets in 1940s.

The Soviet Danube flotilla established 1940 included also some ex Romanian ships, at least
SOVIETSKAYA BUKOVINA - hospital ship
SOVIETSKAYA BESSARABIYA- transport
and some more were ex Romanian ones.
Have somebody ideas about these Romanian ships ????
I do not belive Soviet bought them :cry:
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Andreas von Mach
Posted: October 24, 2003 08:35 pm
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For memory known auxiliary ships of Soviet Daube Flotilla

BUG lost 18.8.41 in Kherson German tanks -deleted 30.8.41 -HQ ship
GROZA lost 17.9.41 on German mine off halfinsel Pervomayskiy -floating base of armoured motorboats,
IN-23 tug escaped to Black Sea
KP-11 22.6.41-23.7.41 tug
KP-23 22.6.41-23.7.41 tug side wheel
PS-3 mobilised 19.7.41 blown up 8.7.41 at Reni - deleted 20.11.41 -auxiliary sailing schooner
PM-10 22.6.41 repair ship escaped to Black Sea
KOLKHOZNIK lost 21.9.41 near village Pokrovka enemy A/c - mine depot
1 floating dock
1 tanker
1 ferry boat
5 pontons

Auxiliary tugs , perheps mobilised only:
BUREVESTNIK
PARTIZAN
ZHELEZNIAK
KETTI
CHAPAYEVKA
DEFLETOV
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Cristian Craciunoiu
Posted: October 29, 2003 08:17 am
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The Soviets took all the ships they found in the ex Romanian harbours. Fortunately they were very few and left the area before they could reach there. We could find a list of barges, but tugs and no passangers are included.
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Th. Dorgeist
Posted: August 15, 2006 09:49 pm
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Hallo,

ich habe großes Interesse an die 1939-1941 auf der Donau in Verlust geratenen Schiffe von Rumänien, UdSSR, DEutschland usw.

Vielleicht lindet sich ja noch eine Liste der Lastkähne, Pontons usw.

Dank und Gruß

Theo
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Florin
Posted: August 16, 2006 12:57 pm
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QUOTE (Th. Dorgeist @ August 15, 2006 04:49 pm)
Hallo,

ich habe großes Interesse an die 1939-1941 auf der Donau in Verlust geratenen Schiffe von Rumänien, UdSSR, DEutschland usw.

Vielleicht lindet sich ja noch eine Liste der Lastkähne, Pontons usw.

Dank und Gruß

Theo

Can you please mention this in English?
Germany did not win World War II, if I remember right.
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Posted: August 16, 2006 01:24 pm
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i'll translate:

"i'm very intrested in riverine units lost on the Danube river between 1939-1941 by Romania, Soviet Union, Germany.

Maybe someone has a list of barges, pontons etc."
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Th. Dorgeist
Posted: August 16, 2006 06:21 pm
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""Germany did not win World War II, if I remember right.""

Hello Florin,

my English is not perfect unfortunately,
your politeness (blandness ?) however probably also not.

Germany does not have God is won owing to the war,
thus there is not here also so many cement - heads.

Only together one can regenerate the nevertheless straight
heavy history of the war in the black sea area,

Many greetings

Theo
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Florin
Posted: August 16, 2006 08:10 pm
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QUOTE (Th. Dorgeist @ August 16, 2006 01:21 pm)
""Germany did not win World War II, if I remember right.""

Hello Florin,

my English is not perfect unfortunately,
your politeness (blandness ?) however probably also not.
........................................

Mr. Dorgeist,

I know I was not quite polite.
At least you have to agree that if Germany would win that war, people on planet Earth would speak today German everywhere, in stead of English. As German grammar is much more difficult than English grammar, and the nouns have to start with capital letter, and the words join together in strange long combined words, I am not too sad that National-Socialist Germany lost the war.

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Andreas von Mach
Posted: January 13, 2007 02:26 pm
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I have from Ukraine some data relating to early Soviet vessels ion the Danube

SOVETSKAYA BUKOVINA ex PRINCIPELE NICOLAE
built 1885 Germany 30,6x5,58x1,8m 250hp=16km/h
Passengers 6-I Class 40-II 160-deck
During WW II haspital ship in Danube Flotilla
1944 decomissioned as hospital ship
till 1947 staff ship Danube Flotilla
1947 Azovskoe Parokhodstvo
1955 Taganrog shipyard - served as yachts baseship
1962 grounded , salvaged and scrapped

SOVETSKAYA BESSARABIYA
250t dwt 14km/h lager as the above
15.9.41 lost off Tendra in heavy weather
1942 salveged by Germans
towed fro repairs to Romania.
1944 Romonian transferred to USSR
transferred to Azov SS company


Some other vessels
ETTOR
KRASNYY FLOT
PSKOV
PLEKHANOV
STEPAN RAZIN

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Andreas von Mach
Posted: January 14, 2007 07:53 am
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PRINCIPELE NICOLAE was built not in Germany but
in Austria by Mayer, Linz #308 as CAROLUS
1885 Radzugdampfer (It is an error she was screw steamer) 160hp 33,530x5,860x2,743x1,134m
and engined by Escher -Wayss, Zürich #382 in yard list as CAROLUS I Passagier-Schraubenboot 160hp Compound,Vertikal,fest

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Andreas von Mach
Posted: March 20, 2007 11:22 pm
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QUOTE (Andreas von Mach @ January 13, 2007 02:26 pm)
SOVETSKAYA BESSARABIYA
250t dwt 14km/h lager as the above
15.9.41 lost off Tendra in heavy weather
1942 salveged by Germans
towed fro repairs to Romania.
1944 Romanian transferred to USSR
transferred to Azov SS company

SOVETSKAYA BESSARABIYA
was refloated 1942
and converted into floating accomodation vessel BESSAREBECKU
At the end of August 1944 seized at Danube estuary and
transferred to Black Sea Shipping Company

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