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> Ip, Salaj county, 13/14 sept 1940, remembering
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Posted: September 13, 2007 03:05 pm
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67 years ago, on the night of 13/14 september 1940,
after less than 2 weeks from the romanian troops withdraw after Viena Diktat
from Transylvania, 157 romanian civilians were killed with cold-blood
in village of Ip, Salaj country, from the part of Transylvania given to Hungary.
Hungarians killed them organised, youngest romanian killed being in the belly of his mother, bayoneted on the street.
Eldest romanian was more than 80 years old.

I don't intend to start a discussion on this topic, nor to acuse,
I want this words only to remember what mankind can do to mankind in XXth century, in the very land that we live in, so this things never happen again.

May God rest their souls in peace!
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Posted: September 13, 2007 05:59 pm
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I go throu Ip almost twice a year...it's called a martir city. May God rest the souls of the innocent that were killed there and let's hope that humanity will never do a thing like that ever again.

"If mankind doesn't put an end to war...war will put an end to mankind" I can't remember who said that but...I agree with him.

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Posted: September 13, 2007 09:20 pm
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There is no need to start a new topic on this issue.
There is already an existing one, titled: Romanian & Hungarian war-crimes:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?sh...=274&hl=traznea

Over there, we have already discussed the crimes committed by both sides.

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Posted: September 14, 2007 03:58 am
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This topic is opened for the comemoration of the victims from Ip, at 67 years from the massacre.
That's why I wanted it separatelly.
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Posted: September 20, 2007 06:12 pm
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Yes, My grandmother still remebers that night, She is from Cosnicu de Jos.
She remembers how hungarian infantry along with some armed civilians(from Ip)
that where giving indications to the troops
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Posted: September 13, 2012 02:28 pm
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72 years now. RIP their innocent souls, especially those of the kids.

A partial list of those killed (romanian language):

Viorica Brisc, 7 ani, şi mama sa, Gafia Brisc, 34 ani, Mitru Pop, Gheorghe Popfani, Ion Sămunela, Ana Boican – ucisă împreună cu cei 4 copii ai săi, Ana Sârb – ucisă împreună cu cei 2 copii ai săi, Ioan şi Floarea Boican – ucişi împreună cu alţi 4 membri ai familiei, Vasile şi Floarea Buboi – ucişi împreună cu cei 7 copii ai lor, Gheorghe şi Floarea Crişan – ucişi împreună cu cei 2 copii ai lor, Ion şi Maria Hălmăjan – ucişi împreună cu cei 4 copii ai lor, Găvrilă Hălmăjan, Gavrilă şi Ilişca Boza – ucişi împreună cu cei 7 copii ai lor, Floarea Sîrca – ucisă împreună cu cei 2 copii ai săi, Petru şi Ana Bretian – ucişi împreună cu cei 2 copii ai lor, Crăciun şi Maria Medeşan – ucişi împreună cu cei 2 copii ai lor, Ilie Tuş – ucis împreună cu unul dintre copii săi, Dumitru şi Domnica Zochitea – ucişi împreună cu copilul lor, Petru şi Floarea Butcovan – ucişi împreună cu cei 3 copii ai lor, Gheorghe Mureşan, Ana Mureşan, Ioan şi Maria Crişan – ucişi împreună cu cei 2 copii ai lor, Ioan şi Maria Jurcuţ – ucişi împreună cu cei 2 copii ai lor, Mihai Butcovan – ucis împreună cu cei 5 copii ai săi, Ana Medeşan – ucisă împreună cu cei 5 copii ai săi, Gheorghe Leonte, Anuţa Leonte, Gavrilă Crişan, Maria Crişan, văduva Momoaie, Gheorghe Rus şi Floarea Rus – ucişi împreună cu cei 2 copii ai lor, Mihai şi Floarea Medeşan – ucişi împreună cu copilul lor, Floarea Sarca – ucisă împreună cu cei 4 copii ai lor, Dumitru Ghiş, Dumitru Mureşan, Floarea Meze – ucisă împreună cu cei 3 copii ai săi, Gheorghe şi Ana Cosma – ucişi împreună cu cei 4 copii ai lor, Ioan şi Maria Sârb – ucişi împreună cu copilul lor, Ioan Lupu, Floarea Lupu, Gheorghe şi Maria Leonte – ucişi împreună cu 3 membri ai familiei lor, Dumitru şi Floarea Crişan – ucişi împreună cu 2 membri ai familiei lor, Nicolae şi Leontina Medeşan – ucişi împreună cu 2 membri ai familiei lor, Ioan şi Maria Medeşan – ucişi împreună cu 2 membri ai familiei lor, Vasile Medeşan – ucis împreună cu 2 membri al familiei sale, Florica Sirca, Maria Sirca, Vasile Forţ, Ana Forţ, Victor Chifor.

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Posted: September 13, 2012 06:11 pm
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Never to be forgotten! RIP!

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Posted: September 13, 2012 07:46 pm
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May their memory last!
Odihnească-se în pace!
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Posted: September 14, 2012 11:21 pm
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May God rest them in peace! Their deaths tell us the a lesson that we should not forget: the crime doesn't have never a justification, as revenge or war either have none!
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