Romanian troops against Hungarian Red Army!??

C'mon, Mateias. You don't want to say that the advance of Rumanian troops throughout Transylvania and beyond, from late 1918, when they crossed the Hungarian border in the Carpathians, up to mid-April 1919 was something like a 'walk in the park'? Well, it was not. I don't know what kind of history books you are referring to, but if this is what they write, they are either mistaken, or are deliberately 'jumping' over these important details for a reason I can only guess.

True, that the resistance was rather weak, as the remnants of the demoralised Royal Hungarian Army was in disarray, and only the locally raised Transylvanian defence groups, and the police, gendarmes, railway personnel, etc., put up resistance against the regular Rumanian troops. Occasionally, there were very heavy fights, with lots of casualities on both sides. Unfortunately, sometimes civilians paid the price, as noted earlier, in another thread.

Here is an excerpt from a book manuscript of mine, dealing with this period (although it rather deals with the political aspects in a general way):
"In the last day of October 1918, eleven days prior World War One officially ended, the progressive leftist Count Mihály Károlyi was appointed as Royal Hungarian Prime Minister by Charles I, the last ruler of the Austro-Hungarian Monarchy. On November 16, Károlyi’s government dissolved the truncated Parliament in Budapest – which already was not working properly due to the sweeping geo-political changes of the country. Furthermore many parliamentarians from the occupied territories were not being able, or willing to participate in the sessions. Then, Count Károlyi proclaimed the independent Magyar Népköztársaság (People's Republic of Hungary) – without a legal backing, however.

By then, the power of the new government was limited to only a part of Hungary, since vast territories were already under foreign occupation. The Allies' South-eastern Army, under the command of General Franchet d'Esperey, following the path of the retreating Austro-Hungarian Army, entered Southern Hungary unchallenged. Taking advantage of the chaotic and confused situation, the Rumanian and Czechoslovakian forces rapidly advanced from east and north, practically unopposed by the disintegrating Hungarian army. Only the locally raised Hungarian Transylvanian defence groups, and the police, gendarmes, railway personnel, etc., put up some resistance. Under these circumstances the revolutionary Károlyi government was constrained to sign a separate, provisional armistice with the Allies at Padua, and later a more unfavorable one at Belgrade. The demarcation lines imposed by the victors carved deeper and deeper into Hungary's territory. The treaty’s specifications drastically limited the size of the army, confining it to merely a police force. The newly created Hungarian army, formed partly by war veterans, partly by recruits, was renamed Magyar Honvédség, renouncing to the "Royal" appellation. Simultaneously, there also existed a separate armed force, made up by right wing volunteers, who called their formation Magyar Királyi Nemzetörség, or Royal Hungarian National Guard. It operated mainly on the northern part of Hungary, and when the Czechoslovak troops advanced until the line of the Danube, they retreated to Western Hungary.

By early 1919, the political and economical situation continued to deteriorate. The previously fixed demarcation lines were disregarded and crossed by Rumanian, Serb and Czechoslovak troops, under the tacit encouragement of the French command. The lenient Allies then drew new lines, which, on their turn, were again disregarded and overrun by the mentioned countries' interventionist troops.

On February 26, 1919, the Paris Peace Conference, pressured by a strong Rumanian lobby, issued another decree that imposed to Hungary a new eastern demarcation line, meaning that further large territories have to be ceded by the midnight of March 23. As the government at Budapest would not accept the latest blow to Hungary's territorial integrity, but obviously being also unable to militarily defend the country, Count Károlyi – by then President of the fledgling Hungarian Republic – resigned on March 21, 1919. He handed over the power to the Socialists. The leader of this party - Magyarországi Szocialista Munkáspárt -, an alliance between the Social-Democrats and Communists, was de facto the Bolshevik Foreign Commissar Béla Kun. He quickly proclaimed a new Hungarian state, the Magyar Tanácsköztársaság, or Hungarian Republic of Councils, and immediately begun to form a new armed force, called Vörös Hadsereg (Red Army). A large number of Hungarian officers and troops of the ex-k.u.k. Army enlisted into the new Hungarian Red Army, which officially came into existence on March 24. Most didn’t act for political beliefs, but rather considered their patriotic duty to take up the arms and defend what had remained of the country – what the Communists promised will do without delay.
The first action of the new army, which also incorporated a small air force, was directed against the Czechoslovak troops. The new, combative attitude of the Hungarians took by surprise the Czechoslovak Army, which was initially forced to retreat. Similar initial results were achieved against the Rumanians, too.

The Hungarian Red Army's successes surprised not only its enemies but also the Entente. Georges Clemenceau, France’s premier, issued a strict notice to the Hungarians calling them to immediately cease fire and retreat beyond the latest demarcation lines. In exchange, he promised a limited acknowledgment of the Hungarian government, and that no further territories would be taken away. In fact, the Entente had mainly been concerned by the spread of Communism into Central Europe and that Hungary could eventually became a puppet Soviet-style state, under direct influence of Moscow. The self-styled ‘people’s commissar’ Béla Kun finally accepted the ultimatum-like offer and the Hungarian troops reluctantly evacuated the recently retaken territories. Peace did not last long, however. Informed that a major offensive is planned by the Rumanians, already advanced to River Tisza, deep into Central Hungary, the Red Army decided to act first, even when the odds were against it. On July 20, 1919, units of the Red Army crossed the Tisza and initiated a desperate counter-attack. After initial successes, the outnumbered and outgunned Hungarians were forced to retreat beyond the Tisza line after seven days of intense fighting. Demoralization and confusion within the Red forces, with no established chain of command, prevented an effective defense, which was further weakened by lack of supplies and contradictory orders issued by central government of Budapest. Morale was also low, entire units surrendered. Even under these circumstances, the first Rumanian attempt to cross the Tisza was stopped. Only after reinforcements arrived, could the Rumanian troops break the Hungarians' resistance and land on the western bank of the river. Their advance on Budapest – their final goal – could not be prevented any more by the Red Army, now in state of utter demoralization.

Realizing that the cause was lost, Béla Kun resigned on August 1, 1919. After only 133 days, the abortive ‘Hungarian Republic of Councils’ and the so-called ‘dictatorship of the proletariat’ came to an inglorious end. The defeated ‘Red Army’ dissolved. Power was taken over by a short-lived interim government, headed by the social-democrat Gyula Peidl. After only six days in power, the new leftist government, made up by workers’ union leaders, was ousted by a right wing counter-revolutionary group, known as the Fehér Ház Bajtársi Egyesület, or ‘White House Association of Comrades-in-Arms’, which in turn facilitated the handover of power to rightist politicians. The switch of power was facilitated by the presence of Rumanian interventionist troops, which had entered the outskirts of Budapest in the evening of August 3. By the next day, the entire capital was occupied, and on August 7 the last Hungarian army units, located east of the Danube, were disarmed.

Hungary was defeated, once again."

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on December 08, 2007 07:05 pm

For Denes,

1. In my turn, I kindly ask you to specify what do you mean by a book manuscript of your own (a book you intend to publish in the near future, or something found by you somewhere and copied for such a book ?).

2. Skirmishes yes, actual battles face to face of two regular armies I doubt, not before 16th April 1919 when the Hungarians attacked in the Apuseni Mts. area.

3. You are probably right about the Czechs being taken by surprise, but I do not know anything about similar initial results achieved against the Romanians. Please be more specific with places and dates. You mean before or after the Hungarian offensive of 16th April?

[QUOTE] Army enlisted into the new Hungarian Red Army, which officially came into existence on March 24. Most didn’t act for political beliefs, but rather considered their patriotic duty to take up the arms and defend what had remained of the country – what the Communists promised will do without delay.
The first action of the new army, which also incorporated a small air force, was directed against the Czechoslovak troops. The new, combative attitude of the Hungarians took by surprise the Czechoslovak Army, which was initially forced to retreat. Similar initial results were achieved against the Rumanians, too.[QUOTE]

4. Romania had no lobby at Paris, the Hungarians yes. Only this can explain the vaccilation of the Allies who took very late action against both Hungarian governments (Karoly and Kun), irrespective of the aggresive actions against the young Czechoslovak state (i.e. the communist Slovak Republic, etc.). When things became clear regarding the communist intentions to build a Red Axis connecting Moscow and Berlin thru Budapest, they pumped lots of money to the interventionist forces supporting the Whites in Russia and were very happy to make the best use of the only regular army in Europe still in good shape to fight against the Reds (gen. Berthelot was in charge on this new mission, that of fighting the Russians in the north of Black Sea front).

5. You have access to so many reliable sources, please try to be fair and accept that many of them describe very well what really happened those days, without personal emotions, by not putting into advantage any of the belligerants. It's far better to stick to the facts.

6. Before December 1989, access of Romanian researchers to Romanian and foreign archives was very hard to get. Now, more and more books appear here and in my turn I try to read and understand those days. Hungary had an advantage, by granting access to archives long time ago. This is why we really need to discuss and clarify together many aspects left so far in the dark for too long.

Thank you for everything you can share with us. Regards.

This post has been edited by mateias on December 08, 2007 07:01 pm

It's an excerpt from my own manuscript of a book on the Hungarian army (1919-1945) I have been working on for the past ten years now, together with a co-author.

I don't know how you define 'skirmish', but I would hardly label prolonged battles, involving machine guns and heavy armament, with dozens of death on both sides as 'skirmishes'.

This is untrue, to say the least. Weren't, for example, French high ranking officers advising (sometimes leading) Rumanian troops? Wasn't French armament sent to Rumania in significant numbers? This besides the well known affinity between France and Rumania...

If the Allies vaccilated, they were against the repeated infringments of the various demarcation lines imposed upon Rumanian troops avancing deeper and deeper in Transylvania, which were then systematically ovverun without any impunity, as noted in my manuscript excerpts.

Are you somehow alleging that I am biased towards a side or another? If yes, please kindly refer to the text I've written, which, in your eyes, show bias.

During my research, I could access both Rumanian and Hungarian primary and secondary sources, as well as some from Germany and the US. To be as impartial as possible and to paint the picture as close to the historical truth as I can is my actual goal. That's why I was taken by surprise by your aforementioned quote.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on December 08, 2007 08:41 pm

To Denes:

Can you point which were the sources for your future book?

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This post has been edited by Dénes on December 09, 2007 07:48 am

For Denes,
1. Congratulations for writing another book on the infamous deeds of KUN BELA, the petty thief, and his gang of criminals. It seems you forgot to include among reference KUN's mellow monography published by Brosanyy Gyorgy in 1979. Let's do it, let's do it. I wonder when it will be translated into English, to make everybody happy. Rise up, Communists all over the world !
2. Yes, before April 16, 1919 there were just skirmishes. Probably scouting patrols. If you disagree, please be more specific (places, dates, casualties).
3. You said there was a Romanian lobby in Paris. I know nothing of it. Be more specific (names, positions).
4. I know nothing of French high ranking commanders advising and/or leading Romanian troops. Therefore, please be more specific with names, positions, which of the Romanian troops, on which front did they act as you say.
French Military Mission left Iassy in March 1918 and French officers never led Romanian troops. Modern ammo was provided by France in 1917, but much of it disappeared in the Russian black hole. The Allies did send Francois d'Esperay and Berthelot (commander of Danube Army, replaced by Graziani only to command the southern front of the Allies against the Red Russians) and they received strict orders directly from the Allies. Other important French high-ranking officere protected Horthy's government and army in Szeged against Kun's army (Gen. de Gondercourt, gen. de Lobit, col. Betrix). It's the first time I hear of such things. If you put them in your book, many people will laugh.
5. Yes, the Allies vaccilated. They had to send Vyx and Smuts, with no success. This and documented atrocities committed by both Hungarian regular troops and paramilitary forces in retreat forced the Allies to constantly change the demarcation lines on the Serbian, Czech and Romanian fronts.
6. You never mentioned the title of your book or at least the period of time you reflect in it. Therefore, if it's dedicated to KUN's exploits, I wonder if you - probably a moderate, not an anarchist or even communist - find something ANGELIC on KUN, the BUTCHER from HUNGARY and UKRAINE, cursed by so many unfortunate families wherever he went.

This post has been edited by mateias on December 10, 2007 11:31 am

Mateias,

I don't write a book about Béla Kun, or the Hungarian Red Army of 1919, but about the Hungarian army between 1919 and 1945. The tumultuous four months of 'dictatorship of the proletariat' is only a minor detail in my book's time span, so I did not spend too much printing space on it.

By the way, I did mention the planned book's topic in my previous post: "It's an excerpt from my own manuscript of a book on the Hungarian army (1919-1945) I have been working on for the past ten years now, together with a co-author." Please check it out.

Gen. Dénes

P.S. As for Communism, besides my studies, I also have personal experiences; therefore, believe me I know how to regard it.

This post has been edited by Dénes on December 09, 2007 09:55 pm

Thanks for enlightening me on the subject of your book.
1. However, you avoid replying to my straight answers and this means you prefer to stay in the dark. Do you want me to repeat them? Clarify your standing: who was the best for Hungary of those times: KUN, HORTHY or maybe SZALASSI?
2. As regards your personal experience with the communist regime, do not tell me you know better than me. In our familiy there are 3 generations who suffered a lot under this regime, with many years spent in jail for fighting against them. Even me I was under close surveillance. I know, because I was granted access to CNSAS archives. So, I do not buy lies on benefits of communism.

This post has been edited by mateias on December 10, 2007 07:04 am

Sorry, I forgot to add something very, very nice for everybody to know. Among the sites of Hungarian lobbysts there is this one, full of beautiful things.

http://hungaria.org/hal/lobby/index.php?halid=6&menuid=419

I laughed with tears when reading such "historical" facts>

1. "In 1917, when Emperor Charles I came to power, the Entente offered a separate peace treaty to AH, which would have guaranteed all her borders". In fact, it was the other way around, AH sent peace feelers because it wanted to get rid of Germany, just like mices leaving the capsizing boat.
2. "Similarly to the Czech and the French, 5 days after signing her Armistice (Padua or Belgrade, the site mentions only Padua ?), Romania "reentered" the war and OCCUPIED TRANSILVANIA WITHOUT RESISTANCE. So, most of Hungary was already occupied on January 18, 1919". These people are really nuts, they did not consult gen. Denes on skirmishes, battles and casualties !
3. "In response to the Red dictatorship, a counterrevolution broke out and its leader, N. Horthy INVITED THE ROMANIAN ARMY TO OVERTHROW IT". Who tells the truth: this site, gen. Denes, or Horthy himself? Please, please let us have on this forum Horthy's invitation letter sent on a white horse . Thank you.
4. "President Wilson objected to the SERB and ROMANIAN occupation of Hungary, but he was overruled by the French". Does this mean Wilson was bribed by the Czechs and he did not object to the CZECH occupation of Hungary? And the valliant France with her 1 vote defeated the other 3 votes of the only 4 superpowers deciding on the world's fate, forcing Wilson to shut down, tail between his legs ! They are really tough guys, these French. Let's send them more often to K1 competitions. I suppose Wilson was depressed, too. Just like Kun Bela. Wilson probably went very disgusted to an Austrian hospital and never competed for another mandate, because he was so disappointed by the French and never got back to face the fury of the Americans of Hungarian origin.

This post has been edited by mateias on December 10, 2007 09:02 am

Actually the Hungarians attacked on April 10. The Romanian forces were initially pushed back then counter-attacked on April 16 and advanced up to the Tisa.

For Victor,
I did not know that the Reds attacked the Romanian army on April 10. It means gen. Denes was right about BATTLES BEFORE APRIL 10, 1919, not me with just skirmishes. Please be more specific (place/places, units involved, casualties on both sides) and identify your source.

For Denes,
I know you are busy with finishing that book, but I am still waiting for those details requested because you had access to a lot more sources than everybody on this forum.
I wonder if you still doubt there was a CONCERTED COMMUNIST ACTION in an Europe where too much blood was shed and everybody was sick and tired.
An American researcher who knew very well the Hungarian propaganda wrote 2 books on Romania during WW1 and clearly states this.
This is the link, and I add some paragraphs for everyone to see.

http://depts.washington.edu/cartah/text_ar...k/toc_pag.shtml

“Bessarabia.
Russia and Roumania on the Black Sea”
by Charles Upson Clark, professor at Columbia University, USA


….
But in March 1919 the Russian kaleidoscope changed again. THE ALLIED FORCES ABANDONED RUSSIA DEFINITELY TO THE BOLSHEVISTS ; Petliura was driven out of the Ukraine, and his smartly dressed officers became familiar sights in Roumanian cafes; the German, French and Italian Communists won unexpected victories; Bulgaria fell in with the current, AND BELA KUN TURNED HUNGARY INTO A COMMUNIST PARADISE. The Russian Communists had their heads turned. They foresaw absorption of Poland and Roumania into a great Bolshevist state, which should extend on the west to Germany, Italy and Bulgaria.
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The uprising [in Bessarabia] was to begin in May 1919; regiments were formed in the Ukraine, and all former soldiers and officers (up to the age of 50) were mobilized along the frontier, with headquarters at Tiraspol, opposite Bender. There were however many desertions, and other difficulties, which caused the Committee to request from the Military Council at Odessa a postponement till July. This was granted all the more readily in that IT WOULD COINCIDE WITH BELA KUN'S COMMUNIST ATTACK ON ROUMANIA FROM THE WEST, for which he had been accumulating troops and cannon ever since HIS SUCCESSFUL EXPERIMENT WITH THE CZECHO-SLOVAKS. Through the INFLUENCE OF HUNGARIAN PROPAGANDA, we have been taught to regard this campaign along the Theiss as an unprovoked descent of the Roumanians on a defenseless foe-an especially amusing perversion of the truth, since it involves support of Bolshevism; for the actual facts, see chapter XVIII of my "Greater Roumania."

In July, everything seemed ripe. BELA KUN HAD MASSED HIS SIX DIVISIONS ALONG THE THEISS, OPPOSITE THE TWO ROUMANIAN DIVISIONS STATIONED THERE; the Ukraine was in Bolshevist hands; the Roumanian Socialists planned a general strike; Bessarabia was reported to be in a ferment of discontent. The blow was dealt.
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There never was a more complete fiasco than this Bessarabian Revolution...."

By the way, gen. Denes, 6 divisions against 2 divisions is exactly the ratio required for a successful attack in modern warfare. What exactly happened there, why did the ever-glorious Honveds and their Stromfeld's airforce lose again against Romanian "opinca-bearers" ? Maybe they were also sick and tired of being led by the "depressed" Kun the Butcher ?

This post has been edited by mateias on December 10, 2007 10:51 am