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My album, ARR pictures and others| C-2 |
Posted: December 03, 2006 04:43 pm
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 General Medic  Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003  |
But he wears a wedding ring...
In none of my photos of Bazu,he wears one. Is it A 111? This post has been edited by C-2 on December 03, 2006 04:44 pm |
 
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| George |
Posted: December 04, 2006 06:32 pm
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Fruntas  Group: Members Posts: 80 Member No.: 138 Joined: November 07, 2003 |
Klemm 25 YR-ARU accidented in Sept.1939 and Nov.1939,may be the secodn acc.
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| Dénes |
Posted: December 04, 2006 08:40 pm
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The so-called 'Michael's Cross' wasn't introduced until May 1941, so this accident must have happened after this date.
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| D13-th_Mytzu |
Posted: December 05, 2006 06:22 pm
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109 if you ask me (the stabilizers look like those of a 109). |
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| Dénes |
Posted: December 05, 2006 08:52 pm
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The size of the tail section appears to me larger than that of the Bf 109's.
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| Radub |
Posted: December 06, 2006 09:50 am
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It is definitely not a 109. The tailwheel of this aircraft is a very unusual design, definitely not the type used on any of the 109s, He112, etc.. It is hard to pin down, there is no recognisable detail anywhere.
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| Messerschmitt |
Posted: December 06, 2006 10:00 am
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If there isn`t any clue about the date and the place, how did you realise it`s in Romania??? |
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| horia |
Posted: December 07, 2006 09:07 am
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The plane is not accidented. In this position it is maintenced. I think the people around are washing it. At the same position Zlin planes are washed at Aeroclubul Romaniei |
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| D13-th_Mytzu |
Posted: December 07, 2006 11:00 am
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The plane suffered a heavy crash  ofcourse the tailwheel looks "different"  Denes - which of the sizes ? pls be more specific so I can messure it  |
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| Radub |
Posted: December 07, 2006 11:16 am
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You mean that the crash was so serious that it turned the wheel into a completely different type of wheel, yoke and retraction mehcanism?  Now that is some crash! Like this maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klftOp1txqcYou need specifics? Well: The 109 had a very specific type of yoke. This yoke does not have the rake (angle of inclination) of a 109 yoke. This yoke does not have the shape of the 109 yoke. Also, 109 E and G2 had a cutout for retraction. The G4 and further had that opening covered, BUT, the steering lock mechanism was external and, when not covered by a leather boot, it was very visible. I can tell you with utmost certainty that this is not a 109. http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9539/picture1002ml5.jpg At first I though that it was a He112, and the yoke looks a bit like it, but it is not it either. do not even know whether this is a Romanian aircraft. There is really no clue as to type, origin, nationality etc. in that picture. Radu This post has been edited by Radub on December 07, 2006 11:21 am |
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| D13-th_Mytzu |
Posted: December 07, 2006 11:20 am
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I still think it is a 109 and the tailwheel is not what you expect it to be due to the impact/dammage/crash/etc.
I fail to see how you expect it to have same inclination and look like the undammaged one after such a crash.  This post has been edited by D13-th_Mytzu on December 07, 2006 11:22 am |
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| Radub |
Posted: December 07, 2006 11:22 am
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I repeat You mean that the crash was so serious that it turned the wheel into a completely different type of wheel, yoke and retraction mehcanism? Now that is some crash! Like this maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klftOp1txqc Radu This post has been edited by Radub on December 07, 2006 11:46 am |
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| D13-th_Mytzu |
Posted: December 07, 2006 11:29 am
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I didn't say so and I don't think so simply because I do not think it is a different type of tail-wheel.
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| Radub |
Posted: December 07, 2006 11:30 am
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Here is a comparison between the tailwheels. It is NOT a 109.
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| Radub |
Posted: December 07, 2006 11:32 am
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PROVE IT! If you can't help, don't cause harm. The argument here is not about WHO is right, it is about WHAT is right. I showed a photo that proves that it is not a 109. Please show your evidence that proves it is a 109. Radu |
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