Allies of Germany

Bulgaria participated in the invasion of Greece in the spring of 1941 and provided some security forces for some of the occupied areas in the Balkans. Against the Soviet Union it only participated with several transport (Varna, Czar Fredinand) ships and with its small navy (only in territorial waters). It was also the subject of several US 15th Air Force raids.

I voted Romania not because this is a forum concerning the Romanian military history but because I feel that Romania gave to the Germans fuel and men. Without the Ploesti oil fields, the war would have been very different.

I know that this is a Romanian Forum but I am surprised so far by that poll, only 1 vote for Croatia??? To me Romania and Croatia were the best Allies to the Germans on the Eastern Front. The Croatian were pretty effective at Stalingrad.

Regards

Please say some details about croatian at Stalingrad.

Iama

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Here is some info about the Croatian in the Wehrmacht written by Allen Milcic. You will find som info about their performance at Stalingrad in that article:

http://www.feldgrau.com/croatia.html

Regards

Thanks! Good link!

Iama

Having the fights in the Caucas in my mind I'll say Romania!

For Benoit!

Once more:
If we take combined German-Axis units (like InfRgt 369 (kroat.)) Croatia is 1st.
But all others Nation's units combined with German will also bring one or two places upwards.
But Croatian units (I speak of of the units of the Independent State of Croatia [NDH]) were at the last but one place.


MfG Michi

1st of what ? Problem with this sort of poll is that it is never explained by what criteria things should be judged. For example 'best ally" could be the ally contributing 1) the more manpower ; 2) the more ressources ; or 3) staying the longer on Germany's side. Depending on the choosen criterium I can reach each time a different classification result.

It's very clear that Romania was the most important - we gave the germans: oil, grain, 20 divisions (or more)!
Need I say more?

Thank you for your vote of JAPANEmpaire.
Mihai

I think this poll should be "who was the most important ally of Rumania".

Who cares who was the biggest help for the nazis....

This is about most important European Germany ally... Japan, of course, would be no.1, even if Pearl Harbour might be viewed as a mistake in the eyes of Germany at that time (making US join the war effort with all its forces is nothing to joke about)

I care and many more do. This is history not propaganda, it's Germany not the nazis, it's Hitler not the Devil. The westerners have a problem with this, unlike us, who learned to adapt to the various threats that appeared at the borders. The most important ally of Romania is the lack of conviction. This is why the Romanian Principalities resisted in the Middle Ages (from the 16th Century, at least, but the situation resembles all our history): we were blessed with the gift of being the friend of everyone without knowing the proper meaning of the word. In other words: a friend but not a welcomed guest...

There are many forums dedicated to Germany which would be good or better places to develop such trends. But maybe that's just me.

Given that 95+ % voted Hitler into power so that he could take their voting rights away, one might conclude there is some uncomfortable level of overlap. It's your right to make a difference between the Germans and the nazis (and I certainly do) but, to the foreign victims of the nazi political regime, or those fighting desperately for their survival, they were less inclined to make such a fine distinction.

Ah. Did I say that ? Or are you just putting into my mouth whatever it takes to beat a dead horse. ?

Yes. Westerners were never invaded and could not adapt. Darwin would say that they should have disappeared...

This post has been edited by Chandernagore on January 24, 2005 02:58 pm