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Posted: April 14, 2006 10:30 am
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QUOTE (Carol I @ Apr 6 2006, 09:02 AM)


Another Order of Michael the Brave on a medal bar from the same seller who offers the badge above. The suspension crown looks somewhat similar to some used for the 1941 model of the order (see below). Does anyone know when did these crown types start to be used for this order?


I don't know what kind of order this is but it is not an original MV-order! It seems to look similar with the compernsatory MV's given in the '90's to the knights that have loose or throw them away because of the communists!
The same is available also for the "MV" posted previous by Claudiu1988 and mihai
Make also your opinion.

(IMG:http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6307/mivia7mp.jpg)

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Posted: April 14, 2006 03:41 pm
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QUOTE (b737 @ Apr 14 2006, 11:30 AM)
I don't know what kind of order this is but it is not an original MV-order! It seems to look similar with the compernsatory MV's given in the '90's to the knights that have loose or throw them away because of the communists!

(IMG:http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/2150/9138nq.jpg)

Beside the crown differences, the order on the medal bar also appears to have a vitreous light-blue appearance, contrasting both to the appearance of the 'replacement badge' you have posted which has darker enamel, as well as to that of other 1916 badges of this order that have more 'opaque' enamels. This could be only a light effect, so I would like to hear your opinions as well.
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Posted: April 14, 2006 05:05 pm
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I don't know who has offered this pieces on ebay but if there were offered by the person that I have in my mind than it is normal that this pieces are fakes! He makes them!
On the Order bar all pieces are ok excepting the MV order!
Regarding the enameling he is using a blank replacement MV and makes experiments with enamels!......it could be so,I don't know his techniques!

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Posted: April 14, 2006 05:21 pm
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The hammer prices for the two items were 700 USD for the medal bar and 335 USD for the single MV badge. :roll:
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Posted: April 14, 2006 05:46 pm
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I regret the buyers !
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Posted: April 15, 2006 03:19 am
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QUOTE (b737 @ Apr 14 2006, 05:46 PM)
I regret the buyers !

I think so.iT's too too highprices!

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Posted: April 15, 2006 03:21 am
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The detail of crown is rough manifacture.ribbon is cheap Russian style,
THis is not good piece.

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Posted: April 15, 2006 07:40 am
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QUOTE (mihai @ Apr 15 2006, 04:21 AM)
The detail of crown is rough manifacture.ribbon is cheap Russian style,

Can you please provide details for your remarks?
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Posted: June 01, 2006 02:46 am
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(IMG:http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/1152/mv1916frenchmount0oy.th.jpg)

I think you will enjoy this one. 1916 Michael the Brave order on WW1 French mount. This order was worn with the bar and screw balls at the end of the bar that detach and did not come with a chain.

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Posted: June 01, 2006 04:01 am
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(IMG:http://img314.imageshack.us/img314/3699/jenescu6be.th.jpg)

Here is an autograph signed photo of General Georgescu wearing this order with the French style bar mount.
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Posted: June 24, 2006 08:25 am
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WWI badge of the Order of Michael the Brave belonging to Căpitan Chiriţescu Ştefan (from a link indicated by igor_ost)
(IMG:http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/420/post34311510973605ak.jpg)

Note the later replacement of the surmounting crown.
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Posted: June 24, 2006 09:21 am
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Thank you !!!!!

This Order is Original ?
I see this Order 1st time :roll:
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Posted: June 24, 2006 09:37 am
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QUOTE (igor_ost @ Jun 24 2006, 10:21 AM)
This Order is Original ?
I see this Order 1st time  :roll:

It's hard for me to formulate an opinion on the authenticity of this badge as I have not seen so many of these badges. But if you compare the surmounting crown in the photo above with that in the old photo of Capt. Chiriţescu (below) you would see that they are clearly different.

(IMG:http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2594/post34311510960501bx.jpg)
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Posted: June 25, 2006 09:45 am
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It's hard for me to formulate an opinion on the authenticity of this badge as I have not seen so many of these badges. But if you compare the surmounting crown in the photo above with that in the old photo of Capt. Chiriţescu (below) you would see that they are clearly different.

(IMG:http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2594/post34311510960501bx.jpg)

I think Order of Mv in this foto is the following type"Big crown".
(IMG:http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7792/mv2322nr.th.jpg)

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Posted: June 27, 2006 01:06 pm
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Look at Romanian Orders of King Albert I of Belgium on the website of The royal Army Museum Brussels
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