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Posted: March 16, 2006 03:47 am
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I beleive that there was more than one manufacturer of this award and slight variations do exist between these manufacturers. I observe this by looking at three different Michael the Brave 1941 3rd class orders of the same period, (WW2 King Michael), that are in my collection. All are original with very slight manufacture variations. So with this information, I will assume that there were at least three makers of orders during 1941. Again, I am guessing that these orders were probably made by the State Mint, Joseph Resch and CFZ. Perhaps someone here can elaberate who has more knowledge on the subject than I.
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Posted: March 16, 2006 08:37 am
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ Mar 16 2006, 04:47 AM)
I beleive that there was more than one manufacturer of this award and slight variations do exist between these manufacturers. I observe this by looking at three different Michael the Brave 1941 3rd class orders of the same period, (WW2 King Michael), that are in my collection. All are original with very slight manufacture variations. So with this information, I will assume that there were at least three makers of orders during 1941. Again, I am guessing that these orders were probably made by the State Mint, Joseph Resch and CFZ. Perhaps someone here can elaberate who has more knowledge on the subject than I.

This is quite interesting. Could you please post images of the three Michael the Brave crosses with the variations you identified?
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Posted: March 16, 2006 02:11 pm
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ Mar 15 2006, 09:47 PM)
I beleive that there was more than one manufacturer of this award and slight variations do exist between these manufacturers. I observe this by looking at three different Michael the Brave 1941 3rd class orders of the same period, (WW2 King Michael), that are in my collection. All are original with very slight manufacture variations. So with this information, I will assume that there were at least three makers of orders during 1941. Again, I am guessing that these orders were probably made by the State Mint, Joseph Resch and CFZ. Perhaps someone here can elaberate who has more knowledge on the subject than I.

There are Weiss marked Michael the Brave and Aeronautical Virtue orders, at least during the period of Carol II. I have not seen any Weiss ODM that I can specifically attribute to the period of Michael I. I guess it is conceivable that there might have been some surplus?
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Posted: March 17, 2006 04:27 am
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QUOTE (Carol I @ Mar 16 2006, 08:37 AM)
This is quite interesting. Could you please post images of the three Michael the Brave crosses with the variations you identified?

(IMG:http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3867/mv1941f2ho.th.jpg)

#1 - Small M1, small date, small crown
#2 - Thicker M1, thicker date, thicker border around cross, slight variation of crown.
darker blue enamel.
#3 - Large date, large cypher, large crown, lighter enamel.

All three ribbons also differ slightly.
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Posted: March 17, 2006 04:32 am
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(IMG:http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5002/mv1941b1bv.th.jpg)

Reverse side.
As you can see, three different manufactures of this order that I can tell.
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Posted: March 17, 2006 09:18 am
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ Mar 17 2006, 05:27 AM)
(IMG:http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3867/mv1941f2ho.th.jpg)

#1 - Small M1, small date, small crown
#2 - Thicker M1, thicker date, thicker border around cross, slight variation of crown.
        darker blue enamel.
#3 - Large date, large cypher, large crown, lighter enamel.

All three ribbons also differ slightly.

Thanks for the reply. I think I can spot the differences. Can you please post images with somewhat higher resolution?
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Posted: March 17, 2006 10:39 am
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ Mar 17 2006, 04:27 AM)
QUOTE (Carol I @ Mar 16 2006, 08:37 AM)
This is quite interesting. Could you please post images of the three Michael the Brave crosses with the variations you identified?

(IMG:http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3867/mv1941f2ho.th.jpg)

#1 - Small M1, small date, small crown
#2 - Thicker M1, thicker date, thicker border around cross, slight variation of crown.
darker blue enamel.
#3 - Large date, large cypher, large crown, lighter enamel.

All three ribbons also differ slightly.

I have a fourth different model.

Regal Uniforma Colector, can you post better scans please? If you are looking at the scans that I have posted, they are all quality scans!
How can we see the difference in this scan that has the size from a flea!!!

Carol1 I think that this is a subject for a new topic, what do you mean?

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Posted: March 17, 2006 10:40 am
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Posted: March 17, 2006 10:48 am
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QUOTE (b737 @ Mar 17 2006, 11:39 AM)
Carol1 I think that this is a subject for a new topic, what do you mean?

Done!
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(IMG:http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9394/mv41b2el.th.jpg)

Click on the photo. It will take you to Image Shack. There you can see the photo more closely.
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QUOTE (b737 @ Mar 17 2006, 10:39 AM)
I have a fourth different model.

It looks like there is a fourth manufacture of the MV order in 1941. I also notice that the points in the cross arms also differ slightly. Some have more distinct sharpe points, others not.
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Posted: March 22, 2006 02:47 pm
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This is one of the orders 3rd class of michael the brave I have seen a few month ago, hope you enjoy it:


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  Posted: March 25, 2006 09:16 am
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Nice, but on the ring or somewhere else it is marked by G. LEmaitre.


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Posted: March 26, 2006 06:54 pm
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QUOTE (Ahile @ Mar 25 2006, 10:16 AM)
Nice, but on the ring or somewhere else it is marked by G. LEmaitre.

What is the hallmark of Lemaitre? Where have you seen it on other badges?
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