Question on di Cesares 109G

G-ral Dicezare Ioan it's still an active and respectable WWII vet. He lead the association "Liga Aeriana Romana".

Below the december 2005 meeting of "Liga Aeriana Romana" at C.C.A. (Guess who is G-ral Dicezare ) Picture courtesy Dan Melinte.


This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on December 26, 2005 09:07 am

Even at his age he is still a leader in front of others.

And women are still around him
But in this picture was very upset of the missing of a doctor ( General Medic ) at the reunion . Picture courtesy Dan Melinte


This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on December 26, 2005 09:14 am

Thanks Cantacuzino,
Those photos are fantastic. I always looked for an excuse to build another... Now I got one!
Of course, when I built mine, I did not have access to your photos.
And this leads me to the obvious question: Why do you "sit" on such photos? I would pay good money for a book or photo album displaying such photos! And there are many others like me out there.
Radu

And who is Dan Melinte?
It took him 10 days to forgive me because I didn't came

I'm making plane skins for the 109E4 and 109G2 in the Aces High flight sim.

Quick question though- if his Emil is "yellow 9", why do I see so many profiles with different numbers and several skins/digital paintings with "yellow 27"? Is that a later aircraft, or are they all working from incorrect information?

For example...



Source: http://www.airwar.ru/

Only one I can find at the moment.

But both the Emil and Gustav had a 1/3 whit spinner? I have to change that on the Gustav then, I have it with the white tip like on the profile...

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No. '38' was actually a G-2 flown by DiCesare in combat in the USSR during the Summer of 1943.
There is a series of photos taken with Slt. av. rez. DiCesare and his mount 'White 38' with several machine gun and cannon holes in the fuselage (see, for example, 'Rumanian Aces of WW2', published by Osprey, p. 30, bottom).
It is not known if the 'Hai fetito!' name was painted on the engine cowling or not.

Gen. Dénes

This post has been edited by Dénes on December 26, 2005 11:27 pm

Based on available information and photos, 'Yellow 9' was DiCesare's 'Emil' with the 'Hai fetito!' name painted on the engine cowling, along with the five white bars and his monogram under the cockpit.

All other versions are incorrect, until proven otherwise with photo evidence.

Gen. Dénes

Thanks Denes.

Treize, when posting images from other websites, you are supposed to mention their URL.

Courtesy G-ral Dicezare Ioan.

C-no, how do you know this frontal view shows '227'?

By looking closely on the photo Cantacuzino posted, I believe there are two distinct areas painted white: the spinner cone's tip (arrow 1 points to the enhanced demarcation line) and the 1/3rd of the spinner (arrow 2).

Opinions?

Gen. Dénes



This post has been edited by Dénes on December 27, 2005 05:42 pm

I stand corrected. The Werknummer is indeed 14646. BTW, this particular aircraft was in repairs at ASAM-Pipera in Sept. 1944.

At the time when I first drew the colour scheme of this particular aircraft - back in 1991! - I didn't have either a good quality copy of the photo, or the list of ARR Bf 109G's Werknummern. I tried to do my best to read the Werknummer from the available photo, which proved to be incorrect.

At least I can say that I was the first one to research and publish the colour scheme of DiCesare's mount (drawn by hand with China ink on semi-transparent tracing paper, as computer drafting was inexistent back then!), drawing published first in a Hungarian aviation magazine, then in SAFO (USA).

Gen. Dénes

It's just an illusion because of the light . The black color lost the density in a summer shine day picture.

Now it's clear ?

Clues : Pilot (Ciutac) and back forest ( posible Boteni airfield)