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Carol I
Posted: November 12, 2005 10:41 am
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It appears that there are two versions for the MĂRĂŞEŞTI clasp too. Here is MĂRĂŞEŞTI.

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And here is M Ă R Ă Ş E Ş T I

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Carol I
Posted: November 12, 2005 10:54 am
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Based on the images posted, we can update the list of clasps for this cross.

1918
1919
ARDEAL
A R D E A L
BUCUREŞTI
CARPAŢI
CERNA
DOBROGEA
DOBROGIA
DUNĂREA
ITALIA
JIU
MĂRĂŞEŞTI
M Ă R Ă Ş E Ş T I
MĂRĂŞTI
MĂRĂŞTI ◊
OITUZ
TÂRGUL-OCNA
TURTUCAIA

Of these, the ITALIA clasp has yet to be seen.
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Posted: November 12, 2005 04:11 pm
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QUOTE (Carol I @ Nov 12 2005, 10:54 AM)
Based on the images posted, we can update the list of clasps for this cross.

1918
1919
ARDEAL
A R D E A L
BUCUREŞTI
CARPAŢI
CERNA
DOBROGEA
DOBROGIA
DUNĂREA
ITALIA
JIU
MĂRĂŞEŞTI
M Ă R Ă Ş E Ş T I
MĂRĂŞTI
MĂRĂŞTI ◊
OITUZ
TÂRGUL-OCNA
TURTUCAIA

Of these, the ITALIA clasp has yet to be seen.

The "ITALIA" and "SIBERIA" clasps are extremely rare!
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Posted: November 12, 2005 04:26 pm
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(IMG:http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/264/ww1cross1916bar16yo.jpg)

Here is one that is not on your list. 1916-1918 cross with bars 1916, Marasesti, 1918 bars. The 1916 bar I have not seen another example of and is unlisted in many books. I beleive that this bar was awarded to Romanian troops fighting along side the Imperial Russian Army inside Russia in 1916.
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Posted: November 12, 2005 05:22 pm
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Some years ago there was a cross for sale on E-bay with a long ribbon and all the bars (probably a piece made for a museum). I remember it also had a "Siberia" bar.
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Posted: November 12, 2005 05:32 pm
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QUOTE (b737 @ Nov 12 2005, 05:11 PM)
The "ITALIA" and "SIBERIA" clasps are extremely rare!

I almost forgot about the SIBERIA clasp. I have first read about it in Traian Serendan: Mărturii despre legiunea voluntară română din Siberia [Documents on the Romanian Volunteers' Legion of Siberia] - Filatelia No. 7-8 (543-544), Jul.-Aug. 2001, pp. 14-15.
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Clasps of the WWI Commemorative Cross

1916
1918
1919
ARDEAL
A R D E A L
BUCUREŞTI
CARPAŢI
CERNA
DOBROGEA
DOBROGIA
DUNĂREA
ITALIA
JIU
MĂRĂŞEŞTI
M Ă R Ă Ş E Ş T I
MĂRĂŞTI
MĂRĂŞTI ◊
OITUZ
SIBERIA
TÂRGUL-OCNA
TURTUCAIA
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Posted: November 12, 2005 07:31 pm
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I also have this one on a medal bar, with clasps CERNA, JIU, CAPRATI, MARASTI and OITUZ.

(IMG:http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/3383/depebara9ho.jpg)
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Posted: November 12, 2005 07:38 pm
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On this last bar, the clasps are also mounted differently compared to other bars. The sides of the clasps were bended.

The "Oituz" clasp also seems to have two variations: OITUZ (in one pic posted by boonicootza) and O I T U Z (on my bar).
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Posted: November 13, 2005 03:12 pm
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Here is a strange MARASESTI one, IIRC it was on sale on ebay.

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Carol I
Posted: November 13, 2005 03:22 pm
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I have also seen claps with a 'non-standard' font. Could this be a sign for privately made clasps for medal or ribbon bars?

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Posted: November 13, 2005 06:03 pm
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I beleive that there were 8-10 different manufactures of the WW1 cross. There are several variations that exist of the WW1 cross and I beleive that this also applies to the clasp bars. I do not think that it is an issue of being a private purchase piece but rather a variation between manufacturers.
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Posted: November 13, 2005 11:58 pm
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ Nov 13 2005, 07:03 PM)
I beleive that there were 8-10 different manufactures of the WW1 cross. There are several variations that exist of the WW1 cross and I beleive that this also applies to the clasp bars. I do not think that it is an issue of being a private purchase piece but rather a variation between manufacturers.

Thanks, but it appears that some fonts are considerably scarcer than others. Are some of the variations of the cross equally scarce?
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Posted: November 14, 2005 01:46 am
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Carol I, I do not have an answer. I would however like to know more about the Romanians in Siberia. Who knows the story ????
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Carol I
Posted: November 14, 2005 07:27 am
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ Nov 14 2005, 02:46 AM)
Carol I, I do not have an answer.

Thanks anyhow.

QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ Nov 14 2005, 02:46 AM)
I would however like to know more about the Romanians in Siberia. Who knows the story ????

I have posted a summary of the Filatelia article mentioned above in the thread Rumunian Legion - Legiune de tragatori Transilvania-Bucovina.
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