 IAR80, etc., - Handling characteristics?
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 IAR80, etc., - Handling characteristics?
 IAR80, etc., - Handling characteristics?| Radub | 
        Posted: November 09, 2005 10:21 am
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|  General de corp de armata  Group: Members Posts: 1670 Member No.: 476 Joined: January 23, 2005  |  To some extent, you are right Cantacuzino.  I just had a look in the book "Vanatorul IAR80 - Istoria unui erou necunoscut" by Dan Antoniu and George Cicos (Modelism, 2000). On page 46, there is a description of the system fitted for opening the canopy beginning with the Series 241 aircraft. The reason quoted was that at speeds exceeding 250Km/h, the canopy could no longer be opened. To assist the pilot in opening the canopy, a pneumatic piston was fitted to the rear canopy guide rod (that "third rod" placed inside the fuselage) which slid the canopy back on its rods. However, there is a proviso in the text: in case of pneumatic system failure or damage to the rails, this "power-assisted" opening system was useless. In my opnion, the perfect solution would have been to fit some sort of quick release mechanism (either explosive bolts or a mecahanical catch) to jettison the canopy by separating the rods from the fuselage. HTH Radu | 
| Cantacuzino | 
        Posted: November 09, 2005 10:39 am
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|  Host  Group: Hosts Posts: 2328 Member No.: 144 Joined: November 17, 2003  | 
 In my opinion the perfect solution would have been the ejection seat.   Radub, don't forget that IAR 80 was a 1938 design and obsolete in '43-'44. The hidraulic piston release sistem was only an easy compromise. The starting production of Bf-109 at IAR Brasov was more important than developing sofisticated canopy releasing devices for the obsolete IAR 80-81. This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on November 09, 2005 10:40 am | ||
| D13-th_Mytzu | 
        Posted: November 09, 2005 07:46 pm
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| General de brigada  Group: Members Posts: 1058 Member No.: 328 Joined: August 20, 2004  | 
 Carol but I didn't say that  or at least that is not what I intented to let you understand... aparently there was a missunderstanding   | ||
| Carol I | 
        Posted: November 09, 2005 08:23 pm
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|  General de armata  Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003  | 
 Then probably I misunderstood you.   | ||||
| Dénes | 
        Posted: November 12, 2005 04:17 am
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|  Admin  Group: Admin Posts: 4368 Member No.: 4 Joined: June 17, 2003  |  Here is a note found in an I.A.R.-Brasov document, dated 12 Dec. 1942: "Difficulty was experienced in opening the I.A.R. 80's cockpit canopy at speeds higher than 350 km/h. Therefore currently work is being done in designing a new canopy, which has flat sides, which can be opened in need. Parallel to this, work is also being done on a system, which opens the canopy with the help of compressed air." Gen. Dénes | 
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