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ANDI
Posted: October 07, 2005 08:46 pm
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Well, in my opinion we should combine those two ways you have mentioned.
I mean, we should gather simple information (like a location) with more detailed info in a single list......every source is important, don't you think?
I know mostly ww1 monuments and cemeteries. I also know some untold ww1 local (Sibiu-Valcea county) war stories and another version of gen. Praporgescu's death....That is, talking with the locals.
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Posted: October 07, 2005 09:23 pm
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QUOTE (ANDI @ Oct 7 2005, 09:46 PM)
I know mostly ww1 monuments and cemeteries. I also know some untold ww1 local (Sibiu-Valcea county) war stories and another version of gen. Praporgescu's death....That is, talking with the locals.

I would advise you to write the information down before it is forgotten.
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Posted: October 09, 2005 02:52 pm
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Talking about general David Praporgescu and monuments, it was nice to see yesterday, that his grave and statue in the Bellu Cemetery had fresh flowers in front.
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Posted: October 10, 2005 06:30 am
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Well, Victor, that was in Bucharest, but I was sad to see that his monument (raised in Caineni village) was stripped of his photo!!!
I saw that with my own eyes this summer.
Talking about rumors and unofficial declarations, it is said that gen. Praporgescu was very unpopular among his men. Do you know anything about that?
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Posted: October 10, 2005 03:30 pm
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No, I don't know too much about him, except that he commanded the 1st Corps in September 1916 and that later a cavalry regiment was named after him.
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Posted: October 11, 2005 06:21 am
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The rumors says that he was "accidentally" caught in friendly fire becouse of his unpopularity among his officers.....But I think this is another topic.
I was tallking later about some local ww1 war stories. They came close together and depict two heroic and daring actions from the Olt valley in august-september 1916.
One actually is wellknown and happened in Caineni village. One small formation of bavarian alpines took point exactly on top of the railway tunnel which was close to the road at Caineni village, before the retreating roumanian army could secure it's way back. That is why, this point, became a serious threat becouse the germans were equipped with machine guns and were well hidden. Tens of soldiers lost their life without firing a single shot and the story says that you could actually get across Olt river just stepping on the bodies of dead soldiers and dead horses....
Seeing no way out of this, one officer stationed in Caineni village gathered some locals and armed them. Using some unknown shepherds paths they fell right in the back of the bavarians and the machine gun fell silent.
This story, maybe a litlle different is also written down in Chiritescu's volume I of "Romania in timpul razboiului de reintregire".
I think the war is full of stories like that but we should tell them becouse they are stories of life and death. As I said before, the area is full of history, a lot of villages along Olt valley survived the war and those mountains are still burial ground for a lot of soldiers.
I will post the name of that officer as well as the army groups involved.
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Posted: October 11, 2005 12:29 pm
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You could start a new topic "WWI bravery" similar to the one we have on WWII.
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Posted: October 11, 2005 06:57 pm
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Images from the WWI military cemetery in Sinaia.
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Posted: October 11, 2005 07:19 pm
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Since I was a child,I like palying in this cemetery.
As time passed by,nothing changed there.
Only in the last years ,parts from the canons were missing and also the crosses were vandalized.
Thinking that it is only 100 m from hotel Palas and less from the Casino.
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Posted: October 11, 2005 08:52 pm
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Images from the military cemeteries in Sighişoara: one WWI Austrian and one WWII Soviet.
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Posted: October 12, 2005 07:38 am
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I saw (unfortunately I did not take any pictures) war cemeteries and monuments in:
Rm Valcea - monument and cemetery -ww1 and ww2 soldiers
Brezoi - monument - ww1 soldiers
Jiblea village - monument - ww1 soldiers
Calinesti village - cemetery- ww1 officers (roumanian and germans)
Boisoara village - cemetery - ww1 officers (roumanian and germans)
Robesti village - small metalic cross in rememberance of the big battle that took place there in ww1
Caineni village - monument (maybe cemetery) - ww1 soldiers
- monument for gen.Praporgescu

There is something else that I should mention. There was an article in roumanian press (1 or 2 years ago) about the war cemetery from Valenii de Munte village.
It was writing about serious vandalization of the crosses and graves of the ww1 and ww2 soldiers buried there. Do you know anything about it?
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Posted: October 12, 2005 11:00 am
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There is a military cemetery in Buzau:

http://stiri.rol.ro/stiri/2005/09/210849.htm
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Posted: October 12, 2005 12:13 pm
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I saw small monuments in basically every village (usually in the "centre' of the village or in the yard of the church). The dead soldiers from the village are written on the monuments. In Transilvania many churches have lists with the dead inside.

Maybe we could make some kind of a database with all the names.
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Posted: October 13, 2005 05:57 am
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Indeed there are a lot of monuments. The majority of them are raised for the locals who died on various theatres of war. There is another kind of monuments raised for a battle that took place in that area.
In Buzau is a big cemetery with three sections: one for the roumanian soldiers and officers who lost their lifes in ww1 and ww2,
- one for german soldiers and officers who died in ww1 and ww2 and one for the russian soldiers and officers who died in ww1
In Slobozia is also a big cemetery in which are buried roumanian, british, french, algerian and indian soldiers from ww1.

I forgot to write about the cemetery from Boita village on the Olt valley. A fierce battle took place there in ww1 between elements of the retreating 23rd and 13th roumanian inf. divisons and bavarian and honved divisions on the other side.

Dragos03, I think that making a database with all the names from hundreds of towns and villages is a honorable idea but a difficult one. I'd rather make a list with only the monuments, cemeteries and their location, as suggested before.
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Posted: October 13, 2005 11:08 am
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I believe both such lists exist at ONCE. Or at least they should.
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