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> Horthy - war criminal ?
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Posted: April 16, 2009 03:46 pm
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I wish there were also some Romanian defenders of Antonescu as fanatic as you are defending the Admiral...
As for the fact that he was not indicted at Nurnberg, two questions:
1. Was any other hungarian indicted? Why not?
2. Don't you think plausible that a bargain was made - his testimony for his freedom?

To try a conclusion, every and each one of us is entitled to the right of an oppinion - so there can be as many oppinions regading Miklos Horthy as people reading this thread! :blink:
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Posted: April 16, 2009 05:25 pm
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QUOTE (MMM @ April 16, 2009 09:46 pm)
I wish there were also some Romanian defenders of Antonescu as fanatic as you are defending the Admiral...

Sorry, but I am not defending Horthy (he was not faultless), I am only stating some facts (even if they do not please everybody). The rest is politics and allegations...

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Posted: April 17, 2009 04:51 pm
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Just a curiosity: among Hungarians, the oppinions on Horthy are divided like in Antonescu's case or everybody just sees his positive side? Is there a current of oppinion which would like him to be considered a national hero of some sort?
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Posted: April 17, 2009 06:39 pm
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Yes, the opinions are divided, largely based on the political affiliation. However, no one, not even the far left, sees him as a war criminal.

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Posted: April 18, 2009 12:35 am
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For the crimes against romanian civilians from Ip, Salaj, the murderers were judged by romanian court after the war and founded guilty and convicted in contumacy. They were actually never put in prison, they were never found by romanians. The instigator and the planner for the crimes in Ip was baron Farago and the executioners were hungarian civilians from the village. Horty's name was not involved at least in these crimes. I dont know if his name was involved elsewhere.
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Posted: April 18, 2009 06:55 pm
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Off-topic (or not...): the final responsibilty belongs to the ruler of the state, in our case M. Horthy, just as for other crimes was blamed Antonescu (not for Odessa, because he gave direct orders there, much like the massacres in Serbia above-mentioned). The other excuses, such as "following orders" or "over-zealousness" are just whitewash - after the facts!
A final mention for the "selectivity" with which some questions are answered and others avoided as if non-existent: :ph34r:
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