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Imperialist

Posted: October 08, 2005 08:43 am

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QUOTE (cipiamon @ Oct 8 2005, 08:40 AM)

Can i ask you a naive question? What sub is this, the ww2 sub?

No, it was bought in 1986.

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C-2	Posted: October 08, 2005 09:32 am
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Posted: October 08, 2005 09:50 am

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QUOTE (C-2 @ Oct 8 2005, 09:32 AM)

And when he was actualy built?

According to public data, the first Kilo Class subs were built in the early 1980s; ours was contracted in 1985, and received in 1986.

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Victor

Posted: October 08, 2005 11:05 am

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QUOTE (C-2 @ Oct 8 2005, 08:30 AM)

Victor,
To BUY new bat. for it from the Russians,it's a lot of money,since they know there's no other sourse,and they charging many times more the real value.
To BUILD new batteries,it's a lot of money ,since you have to create a new tehnological proces (and who needs it?) .Again a lot of money.
ANd for what?

Then tell us how much it costs to buy new batteries for the Delfinul. The price of a new diesel submarine of this size and capabilities is 250 million USD. If it would be so, then nobody would buy this ship model. Batteries have to be changed from time to time whatever submarine type you have in your Navy.

And you are wrong. Russia isn't the only source for batteries. India has installed its own batteries (Gerrman designed) that have a lifespan of 5 years. See here: http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NAVY/Sindhugosh.html

Agarici already answered why the overhauling of the Delfinul is neccessary.

Iamandi	Posted: October 11, 2005 05:38 am
General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1386 Member No.: 319 Joined: August 04, 2004	Kilo and Scorpene... nice team! Iama

crolick	Posted: December 18, 2005 07:12 pm
Soldat Group: Members Posts: 43 Member No.: 740 Joined: December 13, 2005	Hello! Recently I was looking at the Romanian Navy web site and to my surprise I haven't find any information regarding only Romanian submarine Delfinul. What happened to the sub?! Was it put out of the service due to the lack of the batteries?! Regards, crolick

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Posted: December 18, 2005 07:28 pm

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QUOTE (crolick @ Dec 18 2005, 08:12 PM)

Recently I was looking at the Romanian Navy web site and to my surprise I haven't find any information regarding only Romanian submarine Delfinul.

The sub is listed among the other vessels of the Navy in the section presenting Comandamentul Operaţional Naval.

crolick

Posted: December 18, 2005 07:36 pm

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QUOTE (Carol I @ Dec 18 2005, 07:28 PM)

The sub is listed among the other vessels of the Navy in the section presenting Comandamentul Operaţional Naval.

Hmm thank you Carol I for the link.
I was searching for the sub in the organisation, and she's ain't there. Also used search and didn't reseive any results for 'Delfinul' - strange

OK - so two questions:
(1) Do you know Soviet number of your Kilo [and shipyard number, etc]?!
(2) What is currently happening with the sub?! Is it all the time moored in the harbour?!

Best wishes,
crolick

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Carol I

Posted: December 18, 2005 08:25 pm

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QUOTE (crolick @ Dec 18 2005, 08:36 PM)

OK - so two questions:
(1) Do you know Soviet number of your Kilo [and shipyard number, etc]?!
(2) What is currently happening with the sub?! Is it all the time moored in the harbour?!

Sorry, I do not have answers for any of your questions. Maybe others have more information.

lancer25k	Posted: December 19, 2005 05:42 pm
Soldat Group: Members Posts: 6 Member No.: 748 Joined: December 18, 2005	What about modernizing the Delfinul? Western Electronics, Sub-Harpons, new running gear and a modern passive sonar. The cost could be moderate to expensive, However, it could worth the cost; becuase it would make Romania's only submarine a far more potent and useful weapons system. Thank You This post has been edited by lancer25k on December 19, 2005 05:45 pm

crolick

Posted: November 18, 2006 05:02 pm

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Hello friends,

again I have 2 questions on Delfinul:
1) Did sub laready received its new batteries?! Or this plan was cancelled?!
2) According to the Treaty of Peace [signed February 10, 1947 in Paris], Article 14:

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Romania shall not possess, construct or experiment with any atomic weapon, any self-propelled or guided missiles or apparatus connected with their discharge (other than torpedoes and torpedo-launching gear comprising the normal armament of naval vessels permitted by the present Treaty), sea mines or torpedoes of non-contact types actuated by influence mechanisms, torpedoes capable of being manned, submarines or other submersible craft, motor torpedo boats, or specialised types of assault craft.

If so, why Romanian Navy received in 1985 new Kilo type submarine?!

Cheers,
Andrzej

Victor	Posted: November 18, 2006 05:26 pm
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4350 Member No.: 3 Joined: February 11, 2003	Then you might as well ask why did the Romanian Army possess guided missles and MTBs after the war.

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Posted: November 18, 2006 05:53 pm

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QUOTE (Victor @ November 18, 2006 05:26 pm)

Then you might as well ask why did the Romanian Army possess guided missles and MTBs after the war.

Yes, I might but I was not aware of that fact

Anyway - any idea why is it so?! In case of Finland similar harsh conditions are kept until today!!

AGC	Posted: April 02, 2007 07:13 pm
Soldat Group: Members Posts: 31 Member No.: 1356 Joined: March 20, 2007	Romania does not need a submarine. Today the only possible enemy is Russia and Ukraina. Both countries have a bigger fleet. “Delfinul” could play the decoy during the training exercises of the Romanian antisubmarine ships. Even for that the maintain costs are to big. In modern warfare the priority in defending your territory is to have a strong Airforce and a modern AA defence. The last wars and even the last part of WW2 in France (when German army could not move properly during day) have proved it. AGC

Iamandi	Posted: May 12, 2007 07:37 am
General de divizie Group: Members Posts: 1386 Member No.: 319 Joined: August 04, 2004	http://www.jurnalul.ro/articol_79066/_delf..._de_12_ani.html A new article about Delfinul. Only in romanian language. Some words from his actual commander. Iama

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