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  Posted: January 30, 2013 02:42 pm
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Helloooh! There are some people here who do NOT understand German or Hungarian! :P
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Posted: January 30, 2013 02:49 pm
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Nowadays language should not be a barrier.
You may use Google translator to get a feeling of what it's written.

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Posted: January 30, 2013 03:54 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ January 30, 2013 05:49 pm)
Nowadays language should not be a barrier.
You may use Google translator to get a feeling of what it's written.

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I did that, of course... but it is definitely not the same as an "authorized" translation... My point is that if those excerpts would have been written in Romanian, there would have been some objections based on the "Englishness" of this forum. So that's about it...
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Posted: January 30, 2013 04:19 pm
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OK, to avoid the feeling of some sort of 'double standard' (although my comment was posted in English), here is the proper translation of the text in bold:
"a román csapatok már fél órával korábban megrohanták a Kárpátok hágóit és szorosait"=Rumanian troops had crossed the Carpathian passes half an hour before (the declaration of war was officially handed over).
"fél órával a hadüzenet átadása előtt"=half an hour before the declaration of war was handed over.

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Posted: January 30, 2013 06:27 pm
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Berlin and Vienna have non claimed such an incorrect "political-military procedure".
http://www.stahlgewitter.com/16_08_28.htm
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  Posted: January 30, 2013 06:58 pm
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QUOTE (Petre @ January 30, 2013 09:27 pm)
Berlin and Vienna have non claimed such an incorrect "political-military procedure".
http://www.stahlgewitter.com/16_08_28.htm

Perhaps they do not have any (more) claims to address to Romania... :P
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Posted: January 30, 2013 10:54 pm
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Berlin and Vienna have non claimed such an incorrect "political-military procedure".

Obviously not Petre! Budapest was the one who feels the bag /cu musca pe caciula ;) / after years of great joy :ph34r: they brought to the Romanian population from Transylvania! They were terrified that it was payment time and with so few (austro-hungarian) troops stationed there, the Romanian army will march by the Hungarian steppe! But our Army needed three more years to do that!

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Helloooh! There are some people here who do NOT understand German or Hungarian! tongue.gif

You scored well MMM, is a matter of respect of rules imposed by everyone, without exceptions!

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No offence, ANDREAS, for my curiosity, if other person (not the one in question) put those quotations in some blog entry, you would said about those as b...sh..?

I was clearly expressed this way only on the opinions of the author and not about the citations of politicians and generals in question. I still think that the major error remains on the Romanian side, as we have not prepared well enough our entry into the war!
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Posted: January 31, 2013 05:42 am
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QUOTE (ANDREAS @ January 31, 2013 04:54 am)
Budapest was the one who feels the bag /cu musca pe caciula ;) / after years of great joy :ph34r: they brought to the Romanian population from Transylvania!

This is again politics and slander. Why don't you stick to the topic?

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Posted: January 31, 2013 06:56 am
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QUOTE (Dénes @ January 31, 2013 08:42 am)
QUOTE (ANDREAS @ January 31, 2013 04:54 am)
Budapest was the one who feels the bag /cu musca pe caciula ;) / after years of great joy  :ph34r:  they brought to the Romanian population from Transylvania!

This is again politics and slander. Why don't you stick to the topic?

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... and the topic is what? That some "hungarian" sites (though they are ".ro"...) are trying to imply the Romanian troops crossed the border without a formal declaration of war?
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The atrocities are slandering? :o
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Posted: January 31, 2013 07:32 am
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Andreas, MMM, please don't deviate this again into politics. Do some research and come up with sources that state differently, if they exist. It should be relatively easy to find out from Romanian sources the hour the Romanian minister presented the declaration of war and the hour the Romanian troops crossed the border.
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Posted: January 31, 2013 10:01 am
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QUOTE (MMM @ January 31, 2013 12:56 pm)
... and the topic is what? That some "hungarian" sites (though they are ".ro"...)...

What does the domain location have to do with the message? By the way, last time I've checked, there were about 1,5 million Hungarians in Rumania. Don't they have the right to have their own web-site?

As noted earlier, these replies are deviating to politics and slander. Why don't everyone stick to the topic?

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Posted: January 31, 2013 02:59 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ January 30, 2013 04:19 pm)
OK, to avoid the feeling of some sort of 'double standard' (although my comment was posted in English), here is the proper translation of the text in bold:
"a román csapatok már fél órával korábban megrohanták a Kárpátok hágóit és szorosait"=Rumanian troops had crossed the Carpathian passes half an hour before (the declaration of war was officially handed over).
"fél órával a hadüzenet átadása előtt"=half an hour before the declaration of war was handed over.

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Their clocks were set to a different timezone :P
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Posted: January 31, 2013 03:44 pm
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Cannot be, because the declaration of war was handed over in Vienna, where CET was (is) in effect.

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Posted: January 31, 2013 07:23 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ January 31, 2013 03:44 pm)
Cannot be, because the declaration of war was handed over in Vienna, where CET was (is) in effect.

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T'was a joke man, relax....
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Posted: January 31, 2013 07:48 pm
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Sorry, Alex, I've lost my sense of humour seeing so much animosity and politics being shown every time the Rumanian-Hungarian relationships are being brought up in any shape or form...

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