Italian planes in ARR

Hello, were there any Italian planes (Fiat, Macchi, Savoia Marchetti, CANT etc.) in the Romanian Royal Aeronautics?

There were Nardi trainers (later were build under licence)
The Romanian Savoia were also built under licence and had only two eangines(French Gnome Rhome)and it is said that they were better then the originals.

I've just found the answer to my question looking up the airforce section of this site!
The 2 engined SM79B is very interesting! Italy ony used the 3 engined version, both as bomber and torpedo plane.

And Savoia hidro-planes. And CANT.

Iama

The was also teh JIS and JRS-79Bs, equipped with 2 Jumo engines. The airplane was indeed better than the original, as it provided the bombardier with a better view (after loosing the engine in the nose).

Interesting topic. The Savoia flying-boat list includes the S.62 biplane and the S.55, an aircraft made famous by the celebrated formation raid lead by Gen. Balbo across the Atlantic in the 1930's.
The French periodical Avions published a multi-part article on the Romanian versions of the S.79, with scale drawings which I believe were first published in Romania.

I think no-one mentioned the four Savoia-Marchetti SM.83s, purchased in 1938 (true, they were civilian airplanes, but did perform military duty as well).
There was also a sole (captured) Saiman S.202M in ARR.

BTW, Gen. Balbo did visit Rumania as well with his fleet of Savoia seaplanes.

Col. Dénes

Interesting details Dénes; I have a question concerning the S. 83's. Since they were used in a dual role, i.e. as civilian transports, but also as military aircraft, did they received full military c/n and markings? Or, to put the question in other form, were they impressed into full military service in the A.R.R.?
Best regards,

Ruy

I saw only photos with civilian-registered S.M.83s.

I belive their primary rôle was civilian; however, they did perform transport duties for the military as well.

Col. Dénes

Thanks for your reply. By the way, do you know if there is any good book about civilian air transport in Romania covering the inter-war years? I know this is a long shot, given the uter scarcity of such type of works in what regards almost ALL the smaller European nations, but maybe there are loose articles and small texts. I mean works published in Romania, not abroad, of course.
The French periodical Le Fana de l'Aviation published some glimpses on the subject here and there, including some notes on the Compagnie Franco-Roumaine de Navigation Aérienne, founded in 1920 and linking Paris and Bucharest via Vienna, Budapest and Belgrade (they had also flights to Warsaw, via Prague). Their first aircraft were the stubby SPAD 46, called "berlines". Then the French introduced the Caudron C.61 three-engined biplane for service in that line. But unfortunately, the bits of information to be found in older issues of the French magazine are only parts of monographic articles dealing with a given aircraft type.
Thanks.

Ruy

Just found a nice shot of a Romanian Savoia Marchetti S.83, owned, according to the caption in the site, by "prince Bibesco (sic) of Romania in the late 1930s": http://www.centennialofflight.gov/essay/Ae...ia/Aero62G4.htm

Ruy

There was a flying boat shiped on one of the military vessels S-...
I'll find in my documentation the name of it.
It was a little bit strange for WW2 as he looks very old for the late '30 and begining of the 40'


Sorry, my mistake.. was from the WW1

This post has been edited by Devil of the Sky on January 09, 2005 05:50 pm