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| alexkdl | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 08:01 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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          Durin what periods after WWII were Dobran and him active on duty with Forzele Aeriene Romane and what kind of duties did they fulfill?  Thanks  
        
        
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| Dénes | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 08:36 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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          Alex, since you apparently read Rumanian, I recommend the wartime diary of Lt. av. Ion Dobran, published several years ago by Modelism.  
        
        
      It's an excellent insight of his feats and thoughts. Col. Dénes  | 
    
| Victor | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 08:48 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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 Ion Dicezare was discharged in March 1945. In 1948 he was arrested and imprisoned at Pitesti. After he was set free he worked in a mine near Oradea and then in a cement factory until 1970, when he retired to pension. As for Dobran, read here: http://www.wolrdwar2.ro/arr/p003.htm  | 
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| C-2 | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 09:17 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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         General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003  | 
      
        
          Ioan Dicezare doesn't wear  the Iron cross ( he keeps it onto his pocket). 
        
        
      But he showes it to any that asks.  | 
    
| D13-th_Mytzu | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 09:17 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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 All of the BG and FG that attacked Romania were stationed on the many many airfields around Foggia.For example: Bomber Groups: 97th BG .... 340th BS, 341st BS, 342nd BS, 414th BS (B-17) …. Cerignola/San Giovanni 99th BG .... 346th BS, 347th BS, 348th BS, 416th BS (B-17) …. 301st BG ... 32nd BS, 352nd BS, 353rd BS, 419th BS (B-17) …. 376th BG ... 512th BS, 513th BS, 514th BS, 515th BS (B-24) …. San Pancrazio 460th BG … 760th BS, 761st BS, 762nd BS, 763rd BS (B-24) …. Spinazzola 461st BG ... 764th BS, 765th BS, 766th BS, 767th BS (B-24) …. Torretta 463rd BG ... 772nd BS, 773rd BS, 774th BS, 775th BS (B-17) …. 464th BG … 776th BS, 777th BS, 778th BS, 779th BS (B-24) … Pantanella 465th BG ... 780th BS, 781st BS, 782nd BS, 783rd BS (B-24) …. Pantanella 485th BG … 828th BS, 829th BS, 830th BS, 831st BS (B-24) …. Venosa Fighter Groups: 31st FG ... 307th FS, 308th FS, 309th FS (P51-D) …. San Severo 52nd FG ... 2nd FS, 4th FS, 5th FS (P51- 82nd FG ... 95th FS, 96th FS, 97th FS (P-38) …. #11/Vincenzo 325th FG .. 317th FS, 318th FS, 319th FS (P51-C) …. Lesina ^ that is for 23rd june 1944 :] some of the BG/FG were recently moved from other airfields. This post has been edited by D13-th_Mytzu on December 18, 2004 09:18 pm  | 
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| C-2 | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 09:20 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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         General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003  | 
      
        
          EK first class. 
        
        
      From Dicezare himself. This post has been edited by C-2 on December 18, 2004 09:21 pm Attached Image ![]()  | 
    
| C-2 | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 09:23 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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         General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003  | 
      
        
          Brevet.  
 
        
        
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| D13-th_Mytzu | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 09:24 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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          WOAU that's awsome C2 ! !! !  THANKS !!!!   
        
        
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| Dénes | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 09:25 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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 Then what is the black cross-like decoration on the bottom of his left pocket, on the above photo? Col. Dénes This post has been edited by Dénes on December 18, 2004 10:45 pm  | 
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| C-2 | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 09:27 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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         General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003  | 
      
        
          A photo of Dobran in his G.(from Dobran himself).  
 
        
        
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| C-2 | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 09:31 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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         General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003  | 
      
        
        
 Denes, I see Dicesare about once a week.... At Sebanescu's commemoration =it was the last time he wear the EK. Since he somehaow made a peace with ARPIA,he doesn't wear it anymore,but like I said it's in his pocket  | 
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| D13-th_Mytzu | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 09:35 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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          He also had it here: 
        
        
      ![]() Any ideea why he is not wearing that decoration anymore ? :/ This post has been edited by D13-th_Mytzu on December 18, 2004 09:35 pm  | 
    
| C-2 | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 10:30 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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         General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003  | 
      
        
          He told me that he was told that nobody wears it anymore-It's out of fashion. 
        
        
      But Nicolae Traian does wear it I understand that Germans are not alowed to wear the original with the swastica.  | 
    
| C-2 | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 18, 2004 10:31 pm
         
        
        
        
        
      
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         General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003  | 
      
        
        
 See Dicesare's profile at the pilots section.  | 
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| D13-th_Mytzu | 
        
        
        
         
        Posted: December 19, 2004 07:00 am
         
        
        
        
        
      
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 That is stupid :/ he deserved that decoration and not just everyone has it, I wonder who was so bright to tell him it is out of fashion  | 
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