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Russian awards to Romanian soldiers

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dragos03	Posted: April 15, 2006 06:21 pm
Capitan Group: Members Posts: 641 Member No.: 163 Joined: December 13, 2003	Awards of Colonel Ioan Solomon, a Romanian volunteer ("pandur") who fought in the war of 1828-1829: - Order of St. Anna, 2nd Class - Order of St. Stanislas, 2nd Class - Order of St. Vladimir, 4th Class - Medal for the 1828-1829 war

Carol I	Posted: April 15, 2006 08:12 pm
General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003	I think this thread should be named "Russian awards to Romanian soldiers" as it does not deal with other foreign awards.

Carol I

Posted: April 22, 2006 08:57 am

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QUOTE (Carol I @ Dec 15 2004, 12:38 AM)

QUOTE (igor_ost @ Dec 14 2004, 09:09 AM)

Order of st George 3d class receive
...
- Prince of Romania Carol

Do you happen to know the date of the award? Did Prince Carol receive the Order of St. Andrew (or other Russian orders) with the same occasion? Thanks.

According to the National History Museum, Prince Carol received the collar of the Order of St. Andrew on 29 November 1877, almost two months after the Order of St. George.

Carol I	Posted: April 22, 2006 09:01 am
General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003	The National History Museum has this rare photo of King Carol I wearing the collar of the Order of St. Andrew and the badge of the Order of St. George (among other Romanian and foreign awards).

REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR

Posted: April 22, 2006 01:14 pm

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QUOTE (igor_ost @ Dec 22 2005, 10:02 PM)

Sorry,
My friends in Russia sometime help me with Russian Archives.
But in Russian Archive not 100% of information !
"Thanx for comunists !"

Records for Saint George soldiers crosses were more then likely not kept in 1916-1917. There are many reports due to moral problems and a high degree of desertion in the Imperial Russian Army, that officers would show up at the front lines with with large boxes of crosses and hand them out to everyone who was still there as a moral booster.

dragos03	Posted: April 22, 2006 03:09 pm
Capitan Group: Members Posts: 641 Member No.: 163 Joined: December 13, 2003	Russian orders awarded to Romanians between 1866-1879: - 92 Orders of St. George - 19 Orders of St. Vladimir - 171 Orders of St. Anne - 373 Orders of St. Stanislas

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Posted: April 22, 2006 03:32 pm

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QUOTE (dragos03 @ Apr 22 2006, 04:09 PM)

Russian orders awarded to Romanians between 1866-1879:
- 92 Orders of St. George
...

I do not think that this is the correct number of orders awarded to Romanians (see the discussion in the beginning of the thread). I guess most of these awards were in fact Crosses of St. George.

dragos03	Posted: April 26, 2006 05:37 pm
Capitan Group: Members Posts: 641 Member No.: 163 Joined: December 13, 2003	Ok, so there were 13 orders of St. George and 79 crosses.

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Posted: April 27, 2006 08:12 am

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QUOTE (dragos03 @ Apr 26 2006, 06:37 PM)

Ok, so there were 13 orders of St. George and 79 crosses.

Wherefrom did you get these numbers? Igor claimed there were 3 orders and 150 crosses.

dragos03	Posted: April 27, 2006 02:12 pm
Capitan Group: Members Posts: 641 Member No.: 163 Joined: December 13, 2003	I have the list of all that were awarded between 1866-1879 and i simply counted 13 officers in the list, assuming they received the order.

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Posted: April 28, 2006 02:15 pm

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QUOTE (dragos03 @ Apr 27 2006, 02:12 PM)

I have the list of all that were awarded between 1866-1879 and i simply counted 13 officers in the list, assuming they received the order.

Great !

You can to post this list ?

Some Romanian Officers was NCO's in 1877 and recive st. George crosses .

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Posted: April 28, 2006 09:37 pm

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QUOTE (dragos03 @ Apr 27 2006, 03:12 PM)

I have the list of all that were awarded between 1866-1879 and i simply counted 13 officers in the list, assuming they received the order.

I see. Well, I would really like to make some light into this story. Victor has posted earlier a list with 16 Romanian officers receiving St. George awards for the 1877-1878 war, of which it was confirmed that only two have received the Order of St. George. The other ones, all second lieutenants, appear to have received only the Cross of St. George, as if the Russian authorities not consider them officers and hence 'unworthy' of the Order of St. George. Was this some sort of a 'discrimination' of the Russian authorities or were they all NCOs who were raised to officer rank after the war? My original question regarding their situation has unfortunately remained unanswered.

Carol I	Posted: May 06, 2006 11:53 am
General de armata Group: Members Posts: 2250 Member No.: 136 Joined: November 06, 2003	Romanian medal bar with the Russian orders of St. Anne and St. Stanislas Source: Internet auction