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RHaught
Posted: November 19, 2004 04:48 am
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QUOTE (Carol I @ Nov 16 2004, 07:49 AM)
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I have a Luftwaffe topo map of the region (Iasi) made in 1941. Once I figure out how to use the digital camera can post or send pic.

I am looking forward to seeing the images of your map.

Will try to have it up next weekend. Wife took camera to a conference with her. Have several maps of Romania made by the German armed forces (copied from earlier maps made by Romanian forces).
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Dan Andrei
Posted: December 04, 2004 08:46 pm
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Hi all.

This is my first post on this forum so .. I would like to apologize for any future mistake I will make .. I still hope I won't do any.
I posted here because I think I can help with some info about the Tirgu Frumos area. I lived there for 20 years. First couldn't use the satellite map. Maybe I can't read that map.
Anyway Tirgu Frumos is a strategic town. It is completely surrounded by hills. There are 4 main roads from Tirgu Frumos.

1. to the E is the main road to Iasi, the main city of the area, also of the NE Romania. The road crosses some villages near Tirgu Frumos: Razboieni (3-5 km), Baltati (~10km), Sirca(~13-15km), Budai(~25km), Podu Iloaiei, - Iasi(~50km).
2. to SW to Roman(~40km); The nearest village on that road is Strunga (near a forest) (~9km)
3. W to Pascani (~25km, the Siret river crosses E near Pascani from N to S). First village from TF is Ruginoasa (~10km)
4. N to Hirlau (~27km), Botosani (~77km). First village: Boureni(~5km), then Balj (10km), Cotnari (15km)

There are some smaller roads connecting some villages near TF: W to Dadesti, Costesti, parallel and N to the Pascani road, also many roads connecting the two roads; N to Cucuteni, W to the Hirlau road; S to Buznea and SE to Oteleni.

There is a small river called Bahluiet coming from the north, entering the city on the W side. Then just south from the city and north from the Buznea hill (main hill S to the city) turns E to Podu Iloaiei. The river is very small (3-4 m wide).

There is a railroad from E(Iasi, Podu Iloaiei) to W(Pascani) entering Tirgu Frumos S to the Iasi road and N to Bahluiet river and exiting to W south of Pascani road.

I don't know almost anything about the TF battle in 1944, but I think I know the area and if anyone would like to ask me something I’ll be happy to help u.


P.S. how can you get a satellite map to a area?
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Posted: December 31, 2004 09:28 pm
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David M. Glantz' Forgotten Battles series is very good, I suggest it - that site which was left here was a portion of that book. I used to have my own narrative on the battle, but it seems to have gotten lost, my apologies.
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Carol I
Posted: March 11, 2005 11:21 pm
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I have found in Magazin istoric 9/2004 the following fragment by Constantin Isărescu about the events following the battle of Târgu Frumos in May 1944.

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On 18 April we have arrived to Iaşi, where we have changed a cavalry division that was completely destroyed. In that area, north of Iaşi, the Romanian and Russian troops were positioned face to face. They were in advantage, as they occupied the heights. They could see all our movements. On 28, 29, 30 May 1944 we and the Germans have tried to take the Russians out of their positions. Our attack area extended from Ungheni to Târgu Frumos. Our objective was to get the Russians down to Jijia. We have even managed to repel them over the Prut. On the other side, from Târgu Frumos to Piatra Neamţ, our offensive did not succeed.
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Posted: March 12, 2005 07:34 am
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That action happened about one month after the Soviet offensive in the area of Targu Frumos, that is generally known as the batlle of Tg. Frumos.
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Carol I
Posted: March 12, 2005 10:32 am
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QUOTE (Victor @ Mar 12 2005, 08:34 AM)
That action happened about one month after the Soviet offensive in the area of Targu Frumos, that is generally known as the batlle of Tg. Frumos.

I have already mentioned that the fragment refers to "the events following the battle of Târgu Frumos in May 1944".
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Posted: March 12, 2005 05:24 pm
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In www.feldgrau.net, under "Operations and Battles", there are some topics related to Romania. The titles of the topics are:

1. Targul Frumos Battle - May 2 - 4 1944 - Romania

http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13112

2. Defeat of the Group Army "South Ukraine" in Romania

http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12713

3. Defense of Iasi-Chisinau 1944

http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=6831

4. Sewastopol May 1943

http://www.feldgrau.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10897


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Posted: March 16, 2005 02:09 am
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Ok, sorry for being away for so long! Will try to post maps on Saturday if possible (can take pics but still can't figure out how to download onto these postings). Have about 20 maps of Romania. Florin has seen some of them when he came to Philly!
Florin, got your emails but have been busy! Preparing to move to NYC in 3 months. Will respond shortly!
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Posted: March 19, 2005 02:38 am
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Rob,

I remember the size (the papers) are quite big. If you want to get a whole map in a photo, and then to reduce the number of pixels to fit here, I am afraid the text will not be readable. (I forgot the size of the text on the maps.)

You can do what Dragos did under another topic: to divide the information. A regular scanner is designed for the American A size (and for its German / DIN equivalent A4).
Keeping the map above the scanner (of course, you have to keep the lid completely open) will allow you to scan parts of it, and then to show them here, one per each post.
A resolution of 72 points per inch should be sufficient, and avoid to save in "TIFF" or "bitmap". JPG is quite good for what we need here. Otherwise, your files will not fit in the 200 kB limit, which is a must for this site.

If the text on the maps is big, making photos with a digital camera may be a reasonable idea. But again, they have to fit in the 200 kB limit.

Success and regards! I am glad to hear you'll move to NYC. And considering that you have to move in 3 weeks from now, some delay in posting the maps here will be fully understood.

P.S.: "Philly", from Rob's message, means Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

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Carol I
Posted: March 20, 2005 09:13 pm
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QUOTE (Bigduke6 @ Nov 9 2004, 10:31 AM)
what's the ground look like, are the hills big or little, are there lots of fields or lots of forests...

Here are some images from the area around Târgu Frumos taken through the windshield of a moving car.

Hill line south of the Târgu Frumos-Podu Iloaiei highway

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Carol I
Posted: March 20, 2005 09:14 pm
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Hill line south of the Târgu Frumos-Podu Iloaiei highway

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Posted: March 20, 2005 09:15 pm
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Hill line south of the Târgu Frumos-Podu Iloaiei highway

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Carol I
Posted: March 20, 2005 09:15 pm
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Eastern approach to Târgu Frumos

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Posted: March 20, 2005 09:18 pm
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Terrain north of the Târgu Frumos-Podu Iloaiei highway

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Carol I
Posted: March 20, 2005 09:20 pm
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Hill north of Târgu Frumos (Hill 256?)

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