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C-2	Posted: July 31, 2003 08:34 pm
General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003	Does enyone know the exact nr.of Vic.E.H had while flying in Romania? (some say 6 ,other 16 and so on).

Dénes	Posted: July 31, 2003 09:13 pm
Admin Group: Admin Posts: 4368 Member No.: 4 Joined: June 17, 2003	The tricky part in finding out the exact number is to identify the claim locations based on the PlanQuadrant codes given in Luftwaffe victory reports. We know that III./JG 52, Hartmann was part of, stationed on the following airfields in Rumania: 6.4.44 - 9.4.44 Roman 11.5.44 - 17.5.44 Zarnesti 18.5.44 - 27.6.44 Roman Based on the above time period, there were a total of 44 air victories claimed by Hartmann, as follows (data taken from Tony Wood's list): 20.05.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG-5 £ 98 754: at 2.500 m. 12.24 20.05.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG-5 £ 98 711: at 2.000 m. 18.35 29.05.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 764L tiefst. 15.35 30.05.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 644: at 3.500 m. 11.25 30.05.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 613: at 4.000 m. 14.38 31.05.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 647: at 4.000 m. 18.05 31.05.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 614: at 5.000 m. 18.08 31.05.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 733: at 3.500 m. 18.13 01.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 677: at 200 m. 11.31 01.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 813: at 2.000 m. 11.32 01.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 648: at 2.000 m. 14.20 01.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 673: at 1.000 m. 14.30 01.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 673: at 2.000 m. 14.32 01.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 675: at 1.000 m. 14.35 02.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 685: at 4.000 m. 17.10 02.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 640: at 4.000 m. 17.15 03.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 825: at 4.000 m. 13.30 03.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 813: at 3.000 m. 13.33 03.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 733: at 500 m. 14.00 03.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 568: at 600 m. 16.17 04.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 733: at 1.500 m. 15.10 04.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 595: at 200 m. 15.25 04.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 596: at 2.000 m. 17.13 04.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 591: at 2.500 m. 17.23 04.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 590: at 2.000 m. 17.53 04.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 565: at 2.000 m. 18.15 04.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 560: at 2.000 m. 18.18 05.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 25 km. N.W. Jasi: at 5.000 m. 13.12 05.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 5 km. W. Jasi: at 5.000 m. 13.19 05.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 582: at 3.500 m. 15.20 05.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 722: at 100 m. 17.10 05.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 562: at 2.500 m. 18.07 05.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 674: at 5.000 m. 18.35 05.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 583: at 4.000 m. 18.43 06.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 598: at 600 m. 15.25 06.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 78 591: at 1.000 m. 15.30 06.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 582: at 1.500 m. 19.15 06.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 569: at 1.000 m. 19.25 06.06.44 Ltn. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 728: at 800 m. 19.35 12.06.44 Oblt. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 862: at 1.500 m. 14.00 12.06.44 Oblt. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Airacobra £ 78 831: at 3.000 m. 14.05 24.06.44 Oblt. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Mustang £ 65 136: at 3.000 m. 09.50 27.06.44 Oblt. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 85 229: at 3.000 m. 18.10 27.06.44 Oblt. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 LaGG £ 85 245: at 2.000 m. 18.15 Total: 44 victories Dénes

C-2	Posted: August 01, 2003 08:59 pm
General Medic Group: Hosts Posts: 2453 Member No.: 19 Joined: June 23, 2003	Thanks a lot Mr Denes! What about Americans?(I was refering to them). The nr of USAF planes was like I said between 6-16. Have you some information about ?

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