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Posted: October 21, 2004 08:03 pm
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That's the way nost of the 109's were distroyed.
This case is a lucky one...

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Posted: October 21, 2004 08:54 pm
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C-2, do you know the story behind this particular photo?

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Posted: October 21, 2004 10:23 pm
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If I'm not mistaken,that's an "E" who had too many flying hours and was use as a trainer.
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Posted: October 22, 2004 01:49 am
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QUOTE (C-2 @ Oct 22 2004, 04:23 AM)
If I'm not mistaken,that's an "E" who had too many flying hours and was use as a trainer.

It's certainly an 'Emil', but who used it as trainer?

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Posted: October 22, 2004 05:47 am
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QUOTE (^All^ @ Oct 21 2004, 06:58 PM)
I was trying to say: I thought that the KI 61 was a fighter plane, like the Hawker Huricane or the Supermarine Spitfire. Now do you understand?



Like... Army fighter, no? Ok! :)


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Posted: October 22, 2004 05:58 am
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QUOTE (Dénes @ Oct 21 2004, 10:54 PM)
C-2, do you know the story behind this particular photo?

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The original photo belongs to cdor. av. Eusebie Hladiuc (as C-2 should have mentioned it), but we don't know to whom the Emil belonged to and who crashed it.

C-2, in the future, when posting images we copy from veterans mention the source either on teh photo directly (preferably) or at least in the post.
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Posted: October 22, 2004 07:50 pm
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I'm sorry!
I forgot.
I always do it.
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Posted: October 22, 2004 08:01 pm
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There are guys (like Mr Hladiuk said) that wrote books with his photos and didn't mentioned his name..
You have been there when he said that we can use his photos when we want...
I have the same OK from a few other pilots,as I promised them that I'll never have any material gain from it,and I'll help promote the ARR and his pilots.
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Posted: October 28, 2004 05:16 am
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QUOTE (Victor @ Oct 5 2004, 10:20 AM)
There was for instance the Israeli Brigade, which fought in Italy as part of the British Army.

Right but the israely brigade was mainly an infantry unit ... they weren t pilots .... maybe those vets were czech or polish ? :unsure: Maybe americans ?

Before WW2 jewish peoples use to to bussines, arts or medicine ... just a few of them were in the army - ( usualy they weren well accepted by military caste ).
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Posted: October 28, 2004 09:05 am
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Within the Romanian Army during the Independence War and WWI there were Jewish soldiers and officers, some even decotrated for their deeds. In the anti-Semitic laws of the late 30s and early 40s, they were considered a distinct category, treated somewhat better. However, during WWII, there were no Jewish officers and soldiers, except in some work battalions. They were taken out of teh army records and only in late 1944 and in 1945 were they reinstated (I have seen several such Royal decrees of reinstatement in the MO).
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Posted: October 28, 2004 06:37 pm
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The Israeli pilots in their war of independence were a mixture of ww2 Jewish American and British voluntirs.
Their first fighter was a Spitfire made from schrap(i belive they made it from 3 abandoned British planes.
Then they got a few Avia 199S(109G) that nobody liked.They were replaced quikly with Spits and Mustangs.
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Posted: October 28, 2004 08:17 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ Oct 21 2004, 08:54 PM)
C-2, do you know the story behind this particular photo?

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Today I called Mr Hladiuk to ask about the E.
Unfortunatly H didn't get yet his hearing aparatus and he couldn't hear me.... :(
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Posted: October 29, 2004 08:37 pm
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QUOTE (Dan Po @ Oct 28 2004, 07:16 AM)
Before WW2 jewish peoples use to to bussines, arts or medicine ... just a few of them were in the army - ( usualy they weren well accepted by military caste ).

Here is an interesting article (in Romanian only) which gives figures as well as names of Jewish officers and soldiers in the Romanian army before WWII.

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Posted: October 29, 2004 08:48 pm
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In the article mentioned above I found an interesting paragraph about the (intended) participation of the Romanian Jews to the operations in Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina at the beginning of WWII.

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On 23 June 1941, the leader of the Jewish population in Romania went to the Army Headquarters in Piatra Neamţ to request that 100,000 Jewish soldiers and officers to fight for the liberation of Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina. The request was denied given the social and political circumstances during those days.


Do you have any details about this?
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Posted: November 01, 2004 06:53 am
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