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Posted: September 27, 2004 06:56 pm
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Heinz Sachsenberg was hit in his 109 G-6 w.nr 166233 yellow1 ,by a P-51 .
It hapened over Romania ,on the ...23.August 1944.He bailed out woonded.
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Posted: October 05, 2004 12:44 pm
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Probably the next day he was taken out of his hospital bed and handed over to the Soviets, as was the case with wounded Germans that happened to be in Romania during this unfortunate time period after 23 August.
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Posted: October 05, 2004 01:03 pm
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INformation from my Luftwaffe losses database:
Bf 109G-6 SACHSENBERG, Ltn. Heinz 104 victories 6./JG 52 gelbe 1 + - 23-Aug-44 WIA in Luftkampf with 4 P-51s. RK-Träger Rumania b F

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Posted: October 05, 2004 01:18 pm
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QUOTE (Dénes @ Oct 5 2004, 01:03 PM)
WIA in Luftkampf with 4 P-51s. RK-Träger Rumania b F

What means WIA, RK-Trager and b F?
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Posted: October 05, 2004 01:45 pm
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wia = wounded in action
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Posted: October 05, 2004 02:33 pm
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QUOTE (Dani @ Oct 5 2004, 07:18 PM)
QUOTE (Dénes @ Oct 5 2004, 01:03 PM)
WIA in Luftkampf with 4 P-51s. RK-Träger Rumania b F

What means WIA, RK-Trager and b F?

As Aerialls noted, WIA is Wounded in Action.
RK-Träger is Ritterkreuzträger, i.e. bearer of the Knight's Cross.
B means Bruch, i.e. crash.
F means Feindflug, or combat sortie.

I must use abbreviations in my table, to reduce the amounf of typing.

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Posted: October 17, 2004 08:13 pm
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this site states he was shot down on 23rd of June 1944:
http://rafiger.de/Homepage/FBMuseum/Info-S...g/Info-JV44.htm
on that day threre was a massive USAAF raid, but wes any on 23rd August? :blink:
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Posted: October 17, 2004 09:21 pm
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My original sources for Sachenberg's shot down were a book by Niko Fast on JG 52, vol. IV, p.128 txt. as well as another book by Obermaier on RK-Träger, p. 191.

I checked the recently published authoritative book on II./JG 52, by Bernd Barbas and he confirms the date in the loss list published on p. 320. Additionally, he gives the crash location as Pl.Qu. 86522, located North of Rand Reni (?).

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Posted: October 17, 2004 10:36 pm
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QUOTE (D13-th_Toppy @ Oct 18 2004, 02:13 AM)
this site states he was shot down on 23rd of June 1944:
http://rafiger.de/Homepage/FBMuseum/Info-S...g/Info-JV44.htm

Lt. Sachsenberg's Gustav was hit in air battle with Airacobras on June 3, 1944. He crash landed on Jassy (Iasi) airfield.
Maybe the web-site owner confused these two incidents.

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