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Operation "Market Garden"

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johnny_bi

Posted: September 15, 2004 09:37 pm

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johnny_bi, the Ryan's book doesn't mention how it comes that the plans were in that glider but mention only what you said already. That's why I am wondering about.

You are right... No one knows exactely how those plans were in that glider...

But I might say also that many German officers guessed that the final point of the Market-Garden plan was the bridge from Arnhem... Either without or with those plans, the Germans would have defeated the British paras in Arnhem - IMHO.

Dani

Posted: September 16, 2004 06:34 am

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Either without or with those plans, the Germans would have defeated the British paras in Arnhem - IMHO.

Yep, in the circumstances that we all know already.

johnny_bi

Posted: September 16, 2004 01:38 pm

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Yep, in the circumstances that we all know already.

I was reffering only to those plans... not to all the circumstances...

Dani

Posted: September 16, 2004 01:41 pm

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I was reffering only to those plans... not to all the circumstances...

Germans had in Arnhem area 2nd SS Panzer Core

I think that this circumstance could be take in the account, don't you?

johnny_bi

Posted: September 16, 2004 04:05 pm

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Germans had in Arnhem area 2nd SS Panzer Core
I think that this circumstance could be take in the account, don't you?

You mist my point... I was reffering only to this particular issue: plans... With or without those plans, the issue of the battle wouldn't have changed (again IMHO). I think that those plans didn't bring any revelation on the German side, but confirmed the Germans' own later assumptions.

Carol I	Posted: September 18, 2004 09:44 pm
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Abu El Banat	Posted: September 19, 2004 01:16 pm
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Dani

Posted: September 20, 2004 07:04 am

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Amaizing!
3 Guys 83 years old jumped by themselves from a Dakota and others with another paratrooper !

Great selebrations

Indeed! I saw on BBC. Very touchy moments!

Iamandi	Posted: September 20, 2004 11:32 am
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