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johnny_bi
Posted: September 15, 2004 09:37 pm
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johnny_bi, the Ryan's book doesn't mention how it comes that the plans were in that glider but mention only what you said already. That's why I am wondering about.


You are right... No one knows exactely how those plans were in that glider...

But I might say also that many German officers guessed that the final point of the Market-Garden plan was the bridge from Arnhem... Either without or with those plans, the Germans would have defeated the British paras in Arnhem - IMHO.
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Dani
Posted: September 16, 2004 06:34 am
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Either without or with those plans, the Germans would have defeated the British paras in Arnhem - IMHO.


Yep, in the circumstances that we all know already.
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johnny_bi
Posted: September 16, 2004 01:38 pm
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Yep, in the circumstances that we all know already.


I was reffering only to those plans... not to all the circumstances...
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Posted: September 16, 2004 01:41 pm
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I was reffering only to those plans... not to all the circumstances...

Germans had in Arnhem area 2nd SS Panzer Core :lol:
I think that this circumstance could be take in the account, don't you?
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johnny_bi
Posted: September 16, 2004 04:05 pm
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Germans had in Arnhem area 2nd SS Panzer Core  
I think that this circumstance could be take in the account, don't you?


You mist my point... I was reffering only to this particular issue: plans... With or without those plans, the issue of the battle wouldn't have changed (again IMHO). I think that those plans didn't bring any revelation on the German side, but confirmed the Germans' own later assumptions.
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Posted: September 18, 2004 09:44 pm
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Posted: September 19, 2004 01:16 pm
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Elements of 2nd SS Panzer Corps were in the general area of operations under the Op.Market Garden plan.
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Posted: September 19, 2004 01:25 pm
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Amaizing!
3 Guys 83 years old jumped by themselves from a Dakota and others with another paratrooper ! :)
Great selebrations :)

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Dani
Posted: September 20, 2004 07:04 am
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Amaizing!
3 Guys 83 years old jumped by themselves from a Dakota and others with another paratrooper ! :)
Great selebrations :)

Indeed! I saw on BBC. Very touchy moments!
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Posted: September 20, 2004 11:32 am
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Those mans have eliminated notion of fear from his brain from more decades ago... Nice thing - nobody brake legs or arms...


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