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division command| RHLV |
Posted: September 09, 2004 03:09 am
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Fruntas  Group: Members Posts: 61 Member No.: 339 Joined: September 09, 2004  |
Am looking for a list of the men who commanded the various divisons in the Romanian Army in World War I. Any and all information appreciated.
Dr. Richard H.L. Verdun U. ov T.-S.A. |
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| dragos |
Posted: September 09, 2004 08:02 am
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Some division commanders at the start of the campaign (1916)
1st Cavalry Division - General Ioan Herescu 3rd Infantry Division - General Marin Nicolescu 4th Infantry Division - General Gheorghe Burghele from 8 Sept. 1916: General Grigore Simionescu 5th Infantry Division - General Petre Frunză 6th Infantry Division - General Alexandru Costescu from 8 Sept. 1916: General Nicolae Arghirescu 22nd Infantry Division - General Aristide Razu |
 
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| Victor |
Posted: September 09, 2004 08:21 pm
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Welcome to the forum! Haven't heard from you in a while.
Here is what I could find out for the 2nd Army in the summer of 1917: 2nd Army: lt. gen. Alexandru Averescu 2nd Corps: maj. gen. Artur Vaitoianu 4th Corps: ? gen. ? Valeanu 1st Infantry Division: brig. gen. Dumitru Stratilescu 3rd Infantry Division: maj. gen. Alexandru Margineanu 6th Infantry Division: brig. gen. Nicolae Anghirescu 8th Infantry Division: ? gen. ? Patrascu |
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| RHLV |
Posted: September 10, 2004 02:00 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 61 Member No.: 339 Joined: September 09, 2004 |
Thanks to both of you for the information. I wonder if there is a comprehensive source that might be available in the US? Whether there is or isn't, thanks again and hopefully more info will be forthcoming.
Victor: I presume with the first name and as moderator you are Mr. Nitu. You have confused me with my late father, who you knew through emails. He was very impressed with this site (all the way back when it was "Dutch Helmet"). He thought your knowledge, even of obscure World War I generals, was very good and I know he followed the site, even though he had little he could add to it, until he was simply too ill to continue. FYI his notes show the first name of the Valeanu who commanded IV Corps to be Gheorghe, although there is no note beside it to show where he got the info. Thanks again for your help. Rich |
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| petru |
Posted: September 10, 2004 02:33 am
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Some other commanders (the list is far from complete):
I st Army (gen Culcer) 1st Infantry Division - gen Dragalina 11th Infantry Division - gen Muica, replaced after the battle from Merisor pass by gen Cocorascu) 13th Infantry Div. gen Manolescu 23rd Infantry Div. gen Castris IVth Army (gen Prezan) 7th Infantry Division - gen Istrati 8th Infantry Diviision - gen Patrascu 14th Infantry Division - gen Vasilescu Paraschiv III rd Army (gen Aslan) Div 17 gen C Teodorescu Div. 9 gen Basarabescu, replaced by gen N. Petala div. 19 gen Arghirescu, sent to the Carpatians and replaced by col. Scarisoreanu all these generals were at the beginning of the war. |
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| Victor |
Posted: September 10, 2004 07:26 pm
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I am sorry to hear about your father.
Unfortunately I do not know of any book in English about the subject. petru, the CO of the 1st Infantry Division was Ioan Dragalina, who rose to the command of the 1st Army by late 1916. He was unfortunately KIA on the Jiu Valley. He was one of the most capable Romanian commanders of the time. |
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| RHLV |
Posted: September 11, 2004 02:12 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 61 Member No.: 339 Joined: September 09, 2004 |
Thanks for the kind word about Dad.
Perhaps it's better done as a separate thread, but I just finished the new article (which is quite good) and have a question. The Romanian Army simply botched 1916. And as far as most people know that's the sum total of the Romanian war effort (well, most Americans probably don't know Romania was even in the war ). But the turnaround in 1917 is not only quick by also extremely thorough. I wondered what the people here thought caused such an abrupt and successful turnaround from the collapse of 1916? It's mostly unknown, frankly suprising (after 1916), and damned impressive. Any ideas?
Rich |
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| Carol I |
Posted: September 11, 2004 02:43 am
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I would guess it was the energetic reorganisation of the army using French expertise. |
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| Dénes |
Posted: September 11, 2004 03:02 am
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and weapons... Col. Dénes |
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| Carol I |
Posted: September 11, 2004 03:06 am
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And weapons, of course. I included them in the general term "reorganisation". |
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| Victor |
Posted: September 11, 2004 07:43 am
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We should also take into consideration the human factor.
The commanders who distinguished themselves during 1916 were promoted and assigned to important posts, while many of the incompetents were removed. The soldiers, mostly peasants, were promised by the King land and the right to vote after the war, thus canceling the effects of the Bolshevik propaganda among them (both reforms were carried out). |
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| RHLV |
Posted: September 12, 2004 01:41 pm
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 61 Member No.: 339 Joined: September 09, 2004 |
thanks to all for some insightful replies.
Rich |
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| Victor |
Posted: September 12, 2004 07:57 pm
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Here are some more for 1916:
10th Infantry Division: brig. gen. Artur Vaitoianu 15th Infantry Division: brig. gen. Eremia Grigorescu 23rd Infantry Division: brig. gen. Traian Mosoiu (late 1916) |
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| RHLV |
Posted: September 14, 2004 12:25 am
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Fruntas Group: Members Posts: 61 Member No.: 339 Joined: September 09, 2004 |
Victor:
Thanks for the additions. Rich |
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| Victor |
Posted: September 15, 2004 07:08 pm
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Marasesti - 1917
1st Army: gen. Constantin Christescu, then maj. gen. Eremia Grigorescu 6th Corps: maj. gen. Eremia Grigorescu 3rd Infantry Division: brig. gen. Alexandru Margineanu 10th Infantry Division: brig. gen. Henri Cihoski 13th Infantry Division: brig. gen. Ioan I. Popescu 15th Infantry Division: brig. gen. Paul Angelescu |
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