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> What was the OOB of Soviet Black Sea Fleet in 1940?
Iamandi
Posted: August 04, 2004 10:32 am
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Hello, i need some help... please! I want to know about OOB in Black Sea Fleet, 1940. Someone knows? 10x!


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Posted: August 04, 2004 11:14 am
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You are looking for the Soviet ships or the command structure?
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Posted: August 05, 2004 10:24 am
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No. Order of battle ... sorry, my english is not enough good, and maybe you don't understand me corectly. From time to time... :)
I need a naval inventory. Bingo! That's the expresion!
How many destroyers, MBT, cruisers, etc.
Im working on one ... pseudo - book, s.f. with another time line, etc. For my hobby. Maybe, in future, who knows...

P.S. - If you have some extra data about calibers, no. of guns, torpedo launchers, speed, name of ships, thanks a lot!


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Posted: August 05, 2004 01:31 pm
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The composition of Cernomorskii flot around June 1941.

1 battleship - Parijskaia Kommuna (built 1916, 23000 tons, 22 knots, guns: 12x305mm, 12x120mm, 6x75mm, 12x40mm AA)

2 heavy cruisers - Voroshilov and Molotov (built 1939, 8000 tons, 35 knots, guns: 9x180mm, 10x102mm, 10x37mm AA, 6 torpedo tubes)

4 cruisers:
Krasnii Kavkaz - built 1915-16, 8000 tons, 29 knots, 4x180mm, 4x102mm, 4x37mm AA, 12 torpedo tubes, 1 catapult
Krasnii Krim - built 1915-1916, 6934 tons, 29 knots, 15x130mm, 6x102mm, 8x75mm, 10x37mm AA, 12 torpedo tubes, 1 catapult
Cervona Ukraina - built 1915-1916, 6800 tons, 30 knots, 15x130mm, 4x75mm AA, 6 torpedo tubes
Komintern (ex Pamiat Merkuria, 1904) - 25 knots, 10x130mm, 3x75mm, 2x47mm AA

3 flagships - Tashkent, Harkov, Moskva (built 1936-1939, 2895 tons, 35 knots, 5x130mm, 4x37mm, 8xAAMGs, 9 torpedo tubes)

15 destroyers:
Besposciadnii, Bezuprecinii, Boikii, Bistrii, Bodrii, Bditelnii, Soobrazitlenii, Smislenii, Sposobnii, Sovershenii - built 1939-1940, 2000 tons, 36-37 knots, 4x130mm, 2x75mm, 4x37mm AA, 6 torpedo tubes
Dzerjinski, Shaumian, Nezamojnik, Frunze, Jelezneakov - built 1916, 1300 tons, 28 knots, 4x102mm, 1x37mm, 2xAAMGs, 6 torpedo tubes

2 torpedo boats - Shtorm, Shkval (built 1932-1935, 700 tons, 29 knots, 2x100mm, 2x37mm AA, 3 torbedo tubes, 40 mines)

4 gunboats - Krasnaia Armenia, Krasnii, Adjaristan, Krasnaia Abhazia, Krasnaia Gruzia (built 1916, 1120 tons, 9 knots, 3x130mm, 2x75mm AA, 2xMGs, 248 mines)

47 submarines (built 1935):
16 Sciuka-class - 660/880 tons, 13/9 knots, 6 tubes, 2x45mm
6 Maliutka-class - 160/220 tons, 12/8 knots, 2 tubes, 1x45mm
6 L-class - 896/1318 tons, 14/8 knots, 8 tubes, 1x102mm, 1x37mm, 8 mines
5 S-class - 780/? tons, 20/8 knots, 6 tubes, 1x76mm
2 D-class - 920/? tons, 15 knots, 8 tubes, 1x102mm
4 A-class - 330/435 tons

84 MTBs - Vosper-class and smaller type (11 tons, 42 knots)

15 security boats/draggers (400-500 tons, 18 knots, 2x102mm, 1x47mm)

623 aircraft
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Posted: October 02, 2004 04:45 am
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Well I'm impressed, Dragos. I take it that you have no social life or family. ;)


If you can get them in Romania, there are two series of books - Conway's and Jane's (Conway's is, I think, printed in the U.S.A., while Jane's is printed in Great Britain), which list all of the naval ships of the world for a given period. Right now, both Conway's and Jane's publish their lists annualy (they are quite expensive), but I know that Conway's has a volume entitled "All the World's Navies 1922 - 1945. (There is also a volume 1905 - 1922). If you are interested in naval matters, I strongly recommend them as they give all of the technical details (amount of armor, guns, engine, crew size, etc) for naval ships of the period covered by the book. The 1922 - 1945 Conways does include a chapter on the Romanian navy

Try a search for "Conway's" under Amazon.com.
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Posted: October 02, 2004 09:44 am
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The source I used is the excellent book: Marina romana in al doilea razboi mondial (Romanian Navy in WW2) - by Nicolae Koslinski and Raymond Stanescu. Naturally, it includes complete information about Romanian Navy too.
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dragos - many thanks!!!

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Posted: March 20, 2006 09:26 am
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More than that, in the autumn of '41, when the Nikolaev shipyard was conquered by the axis forces, here more war ships were under construction:

1 battleship,

3 heavy cruisers,

4 flagships,

5 destroyers,

8 submarines,

2 gunboats,

1 icebreaker.

Only 2 heavy cruisers, 2 flagships, 3 destroyers, 5 submarines and 1 icebreaker have been evacuated to other ports, the rest were destroyed by the Russians.

(the same source, used by Dragos, pg 186)

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