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Posted: December 20, 2006 06:36 am
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ December 17, 2006 07:46 pm)
A newly acquired Air Force tunic. Captain. Model 1944 Anti-Hitler Allied Forces. Tailored in the City of Buzău.

During World War II, Soviet troops occupied Buzău in August 1944, and, as German soldiers were barricaded inside the Communal Palace, its tower was knocked down by cannons. The tower was rebuilt after the war. Heavy fighting took place in the area after August 23, 1944, when marshall Ion Antonescu was arrested in Bucharest and his pro-Nazi government overthrown.

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There was not a M.1944 Air Force tunic. The Air Force open collar grey-blue tunics were adopted in 1930 and along the years they had different cuts and styles, according the personal taste of the officer and the available materials of the tailor.
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Posted: December 20, 2006 06:50 am
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ December 17, 2006 08:09 pm)
Another newly acquired tunic. Artillery Major with Order of the Star Aquilette. Interesting ribbon bar. Tunic has loops for two badges on breast pockets. Shows evidence of blood on back of tunic and on ribbon bar.

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There is a M.1941 artillery officer tunic and was clearly worn during the war, in campaign, because the traces of wearing out (the marks of the Same Browne’s belt and diagonal are very visible). Sometimes, the traces of rust are considered as stains of blood. In my opinion the red stains on the medals bar are made of rust, as the metallic support behind the ribbons could rust in a humid storage environment. Usually, the traces of blood are accompanied by holes or rents in the tunic cloth.
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Posted: December 20, 2006 12:53 pm
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QUOTE (Kepi @ December 20, 2006 06:36 am)
There was not a M.1944 Air Force tunic. The Air Force open collar grey-blue tunics were adopted in 1930 and along the years they had different cuts and styles,  according the personal taste of the officer and the available materials of the tailor.

I refer to a M.1944 Air Force tunic as one that was tailored not having any shoulder board - epaulettes and colored distinctive branch collar patches. This uniform has no evidence of ever having boards or collar patches. Only cuff insignia.
When Romania switched sides and was part of the Allied powers, were not the collar patches and shoulder boards deleated and no longer used on Air Force tunics ? I beleive that only the cuff insignia was used during this period.
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Posted: December 20, 2006 12:59 pm
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What is your opinion as to the date of manufacture of this Air Force uniform ?
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Posted: December 21, 2006 06:41 am
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The M.1930 Air-Force officers tunics had no shoulder boards, as the Navy officers their rank insignia were carried on the cuffs. The officers shoulder boards were carried only on summer blouses and greatcoats.

The tunic should have collar patches in the colour of the branch of service. The patches are missing on this tunic.

During the whole period between 1930 and 1948, the Air Force officer tunics had no shoulder boards but carried collar patches.

I think this tunic was made during the war or later because it hasn't a cloth waist belt (english style) as it was very common during the 1930s.
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Posted: December 23, 2006 12:34 pm
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QUOTE (Kepi @ December 21, 2006 06:41 am)
The M.1930 Air-Force officers tunics had no shoulder boards, as the Navy officers their rank insignia were carried on the cuffs. The officers shoulder boards were carried only on summer blouses and greatcoats.

The tunic should have collar patches in the colour of the branch of service. The patches are missing on this tunic.

During the whole period between 1930 and 1948, the Air Force officer tunics had no shoulder boards but carried collar patches.

I think this tunic was made during the war or later because it hasn't a cloth waist belt (english style) as it was very common during the 1930s.

This uniform never had any signs of collar branch patches. My guess would be of the allied period 1944-1946.
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Posted: December 25, 2006 10:30 am
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Posted: December 25, 2006 03:53 pm
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This is a M.1930 gala (because it has trefoil-epaulettes not fringed epaulettes) uniform of an artillery junior officer. The triangular rank stripes above the cuffs are missing.
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Posted: December 25, 2006 04:06 pm
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QUOTE (REGAL UNIFORMA COLECTOR @ December 23, 2006 12:34 pm)
QUOTE (Kepi @ December 21, 2006 06:41 am)
The M.1930 Air-Force officers tunics had no shoulder boards, as the Navy officers their rank insignia were carried on the cuffs. The officers shoulder boards were carried only on summer blouses and greatcoats.

The tunic should have collar patches in the colour of the branch of service. The patches are missing on this tunic.

During the whole period between 1930 and 1948, the Air Force officer tunics had no shoulder boards but carried collar patches.

I think this tunic was made during the war or later because it hasn't a cloth waist belt (english style) as it was very common during the 1930s.

This uniform never had any signs of collar branch patches. My guess would be of the allied period 1944-1946.

Sometimes new made tunics had no collar patches because the tailor didn’t know what is the branch of the pilot in a particular unit. The collar patches (sometimes taken from the old tunic) were added latter by the owner.

Hydro-aviation officers had no collar patches but metallic anchors.

Collar patches for all officers, including Air Force personnel, were compulsory until the end of 1947.
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Posted: December 25, 2006 04:25 pm
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QUOTE (Kepi @ December 25, 2006 04:06 pm)
The tunic should have collar patches in the colour of the branch of service. The patches are missing on this tunic.

During the whole period between 1930 and 1948, the Air Force officer tunics had no shoulder boards but carried collar patches.

I think this tunic was made during the war or later because it hasn't a cloth waist belt (english style) as it was very common during the 1930s. [/QUOTE]
This uniform never had any signs of collar branch patches. My guess would be of the allied period 1944-1946.[/QUOTE]
Sometimes new made tunics had no collar patches because the tailor didn’t know what is the branch of the pilot in a particular unit. The collar patches (sometimes taken from the old tunic) were added latter by the owner.

Collar patches for all officers, including Air Force personnel, were compulsory until the end of 1947.

Very possible. This uniform shows no signs of wear and could be unissued. What about the gold cuff rank stripes for Captain ? They are sewn to a black base. I have seen many examples of Air Force rank stripes on a black base. What does it stand for ? During the War year 1941-1944, Stripes were also sewn to a colored base to correspond to the collar patch for the branch of service.
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Posted: December 27, 2006 07:40 am
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According the 1930 uniforms regulation, all combatant Air Force officers should have the rank insignia sewn on a sky-blue cloth background with no connection with the colour of the collar patches. The Air Force engineers had dark-blue background, the mechanics had violet background and physicians had cherry-red background.

In 1940 the AA and aeronautical engineer Officers should have grey-blue Air Force uniforms with black cloth background of the rank stripes and black, respectively, black piped light blue, collar patches.
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