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> A list of Romanian ships captured by Soviets in 1944
petru32
Posted: April 21, 2009 10:46 am
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nice topic as far as I know in the case of the Danube fleet the crew of some of the ships were taken prisoners and sent to Siberia as soon as their ships were captured and just after celebrating the new alliance with the Russian The person who told me the story had its father as part of the crew :))
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Posted: April 23, 2009 07:26 pm
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Well Petru32, a la guerre comme a la guerre.
Vitaly Kostrychenko writtes in his „Danube Monitors” :
"On Aug.26 to Izmail, to the Commander of the Sov.Danube Flotilla there has arrived the Commander of the Rom.Danube Division with the message on readiness for the general actions against Germany. In reply, to Romanians have suggested to translate their ships on Izmail… „Al.Lahovari” was seized by the Sov. troops still on Aug.26. On the arrival of the ship on Sep.01 to Izmail, next day the Commander and the Chief of Staff of the Rom. Danube Division, and also the Commander of the monitor, have been arrested for default of terms of surrender and sent in a concentration camp."
It was CAdm.Al.Stoianovici ( River Naval Forces Command ), and it appears to be retained only few days.
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Posted: April 24, 2009 12:22 pm
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Sail training ship: Mircea (Braila 2.09)

Is this "Bricul Mircea"? When was it returned by our new "allies"?
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Posted: April 24, 2009 12:56 pm
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Sailing Ship Mircea was returned May 27, 1946.
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Posted: April 24, 2009 01:47 pm
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More details, please! How comes it was returned before the "Popular Republic" times, and even before the peace treaty was signed? Were there other vessels returned?
PS: thanks!

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Posted: April 24, 2009 05:50 pm
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About how USSR returned Ro ships, see "Dosarele Istoriei 8/2000" p.58. (Valentin Ciorbea). There was an agreement between USSR ( A.I.Mikoyan, A.I.Vyshinsky) and RO ( P.Groza, Gh.Tatarascu). On Oct.12, 1945 in Galati were returned Marasesti, Marasti, Ghiculescu, Stihi, Sborul, Smeul, Delfinul, Vedete Torpiloare, merchant ships, boats. Mircea was returned May 27, 1946 in Constantza.
As I read on the net, riverine monitors and Rechinul were returned 1951. Miss info's about R.Ferdinand and R.Maria.
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Posted: April 25, 2009 10:17 am
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On July 3, 1951 were returned R.Ferdinand, R.Maria, Requinul, 5 Riv.Monitors.
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Posted: October 20, 2009 01:12 pm
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From a russian text :
Two veterans, N.Savinov and V.Bajdala, remember :
In 1951 was formed The 409 Separate Rescue and Salvage Ships Divizion, including :
- LENA (former german Franz E. Schutle), adapted for divers work at 200 m;
- The aux.tugboats URAN (former german tugboat 450 t.) SIRIUS (former german tugboat Lorbas (Lobau ?), lifted and repaired) AI PETRI (trophy italian tugboat Vigoso)...
- The tender ships DESNA (former romanian aux.cruiser Dacia) and PAMIR (former german steam ship Erzherzog Karl, recovered);
From Apr.1952 onboard DESNA were embarked the staff, communications, crews of small ships and The Rescue and Salvage Group.

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Posted: October 23, 2009 01:24 pm
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The steam - Tug was LORBAS and captured as a Soviet semi-finished construction of the Germans in 1942 and completed construction


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Posted: October 23, 2009 07:13 pm
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I also found :
In 1946 became as salvage ship the trophy German tugboat "Uran" (450 tons) and in 1947 the Finnish tugboat "Pluton" (860 tons).
In 1947 the German tugboats "Wachau"(Wahao, Vahao...) (350 tons)(in port of Ochakov) and "Lorbas" (650 tons, romanian tugboat ???) were lifted and restored, then renamed as salvage tugboats "Chauda" and "Sirius".
Lifted in Sevastopol near the Northern dock, the german steam-ship "Erzherzog Karl" also has been restored and has become depot ship "Pamir".
In 1948 "Chauda" has been transferred the Black Sea shipping company, and the trophy Italian tugboat "Vigoso" renamed "Ah Petri" is received from it.
As wreck searching ships were used КFK's 1269, 1273 and 1282.

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Posted: November 10, 2009 03:36 pm
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My Father a Hungarian officer was captured with his men. In early JULY 1945 were at the beach of CONSTANC. Here, mainly Hungarian and German officers were put on a ship my father clearly wrote named "ALBA REGIA". He notes this was a Romanian ship stolen by the Russians and had an all Russian crew. I cannot find information of the Alba Regia. which is the old name for the Hungarian capital "Szekesfehervar" prior to Budapest.
The ship went straight East, then paused at CRIMEA (KRIM ISLAND). Here very close, a Submarine which he called a U-Boat, raised AMERICAN FLAGS and the Subs crew both photographed and filmed my father's ship. The prisoners were perplexed that the U.S. did nothing, although the war was over. Most P.OW.s were officers which my father implied was against a Geneva Convention rule.
Three days on board eating water with flour and pushing away curious rats they reached "POTI, GEORGIA. This began his three years of punishment, torture, starvation, Illness and agony in 2 Labor camps. The last camp near Tbilisi.
Any documentation of the "ALBA REGIA" (Spelling?)?
Any photo or Film known of is a request avail from the U.S. Navy of my father's ship?
Please any information!
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Posted: November 10, 2009 07:13 pm
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The Romanian Steam Ship "Alba Iulia"" (5708 TRB) - cargo and passengers, was taken under Soviet control in Oct.1944, then passed to USSR on account of war reparations. The ship was used for Soviet transportation between the Black Sea ports and most probably this is what you say.
Alba Iulia (Gyulafehérvár) is a town in Transilvania (Erdély) Region of Romania.
About US Navy submarines 1945 in Black Sea, or Meditarean Sea, or Europe... sorry, no infos.
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Posted: November 11, 2009 06:39 am
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I have seen a photo of this white painted ship. The spelling back then was 'Alba Julia'.

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Posted: November 12, 2009 09:15 am
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From a russian site, about the mine sweeping activity on the Danube river :

End of September 1944, the Soviets had 38 river minesweepers, including the romanians, the bulgarians and the war trophies, also 10 magnetic barges.
War trophies : 7 small rom. minesweepers (boats no. 31, 32, 33, 37, 57, 81…), ships Bassarab, Gherdap and Amurgul (equipped by germans with electromagnetic devices), french ships Jaques Vuccino, Mistral, Pasteur, General Maican (also equipped by germans), bulgarian ships Kiril Popov, Iskr, Vasil Levski and german minesweepers Grafenau, Kell, Kronus, Berolina, Seefalke, Меrcur, Franz, Аrtur, Hindenburg, Маrs.
On Oct.11 at km 962 (Ogradina island) 3 magnetic mines exploded, 2 were near the ship Gherdap, 12 KIA, 3 WIA. KTSch-121 damaged, towed to Orsova, 6 WIA.
On Oct.19 at km 1094 the ship Amurgul exploded a mine and sunk.
All the seized ships had soviet captains. To repair ships were brought in former camp prisoners specialists and evacuated soviet citizens.
From Giurgiu up the river the convoys sailed only together with minesweepers, speed 4-5 km/h.
In the begining 1845, soviets sweeped Giurgiu – Esztergom, then up to Tr.Severin only romanians remained.
At Vilkovo, Izmail, Braila, Giurgiu, Тr.Severin, Moldova Veche… they were river pilot stations.
On Apr 08 they came rom. trophy minesweepers 8,9,10,11,13(?) and transformed auxiliary ships Mistral, Bicaz, Lt.Izvoranu(?), Amon, NFR-1, Hristo Botev, Pascal, Tsibr(?), Maria, Constacuzin(?), Rabdarea, Iordan, Alecta, SDR-1, Putin.
On May 22 it came trophy ship Constantsa. The ships J.Vuccino and Motru got out.
On 11 Nov.48 the mine cleaning on Danube river ended.
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