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Posted by: Iamandi January 03, 2005 09:13 am

From some time i want to know more about this subject. And i think im not the only one with this interest.
For start, i have a question: - was IK-3 inspired from Hurricane? IAR 80 was inspired from some aircraft, so, may IK-3 be inspired as well?

I elected 2 pictures. Maybe is not the proper election, because are from kit modells, 1/48 scale, but it was apropriate views.
Hurricane is from India i think. So, if we ignore Hispano 20 m.m. guns... and some other details, generally is the aproximate line.
What is your opinion?

Iama

Posted by: Iamandi January 03, 2005 09:15 am

And this is the "Hurri".

Iama

Posted by: Iamandi January 04, 2005 12:05 pm


Rogozarski IK-2

When German forces invaded Yugoslavia in April 1941, eight Ik–2 fighters were steel serving with the 34th squadron of the 4th fighter regiment alongside six Hurricanes. The Ik–2 s were used primarily to strafe the advancing German columns, and those fighters that survived were absorbed by the Croatian Air Force.

Anyone knows more about this planes in Croatian service?

Iama


Posted by: Dani January 05, 2005 12:45 pm
QUOTE (Iamandi @ Jan 4 2005, 02:05 PM)
Anyone knows more about this planes in Croatian service?

Check the following link for Croatia:
http://www.vojska.net/ww2/ndh/airforce/airforce.asp
Pay attention to 1st November 1943, 2nd Airbase, 2nd Wing, 5th Bomber Squadron.
It seems that it was 3 or 4 pieces of IK-2 "assigned" to Croatian Air Force.

Posted by: Iamandi January 05, 2005 12:54 pm

Yes, i know, but i want more. wink.gif

Iama

Posted by: Iamandi January 21, 2005 08:52 am
http://www.airwarfareforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=2629&highlight=ik3

At this link i found some nice pictures with Ikarus S-49C - developed from the Rogozarski IK-3.

Iama

Posted by: Iamandi January 25, 2005 08:05 am
"Hi,

I just upload IK-3 site contents on new server,with unlimited bandwith.
Did not expect 56 MB daily bandwith when chose the Netfirms.
So,
link is here, today will be uploaded Dogfight section

http://ik-3.50webs.com/

Thanx for support,
Regards,
Nenad/Yasig"


"Hi Iamandi,
I look at Romanian site but could not log without registration, so, i reply here.
Rogozarski Ik-3 was not inspired by Hurricane, despite it looks close to Hurri.
IK-3 was much smaller in size, ranged with size, engine, construction techniques and armament to YAK 1 , powered by same engine as MS406 or D520, and Ilic/Sivcev- designers of IK family fighters were French students, and all the IK constructions were highly French style influenced.
Hope this info satisfies your curriosity,
Regards,
Nenad"

I posted here 2 messges form another forum, related to this subject, and a link to a page dedicated to this subject.

Iama

Posted by: Devil of the Sky February 07, 2005 12:19 pm
I don't know if something can be spoken of it but it looks like Hurricane a lot...
At least the fuselaje with the cocpit and the rear of it... Also the form of the wings...
The part with the engine seems to be like Spitfire.

One thing is shore: yugoslavs and romaniens have something in common:
both of them made airplanes from others... (IAR-80 for romaniens and this one for yugoslavs)

Anyway... look pritty cool.... but i like more the IAR-80 as a hybrid plane

Posted by: Florin June 18, 2005 03:19 am
QUOTE (Iamandi @ Jan 4 2005, 07:05 AM)
Rogozarski IK-2

When German forces invaded Yugoslavia in April 1941, eight Ik–2 fighters were steel serving with the 34th squadron of the 4th fighter regiment alongside six Hurricanes. .....

The campaign lasted literally few days, and the IK-2 were 8, as you you wrote. However, they shot down 12 planes of Luftwaffe, in a sky filled with hundreds of Me-109 and thousands other German planes...

Posted by: sid guttridge June 18, 2005 09:14 am
Hi Iamandi.

I thought the IAR80 was inspired by the Polish PZL24, not the Hurricane.

Cheers,

Sid.

Posted by: Florin June 20, 2005 04:16 am
QUOTE (sid guttridge @ Jun 18 2005, 04:14 AM)
Hi Iamandi.

I thought the IAR80 was inspired by the Polish PZL24, not the Hurricane.

Cheers,

Sid.

In 1936, the engineers from IAR Brasov forwarded a plan to develop an original Romanian fighter, with closed cabin, foldable landing gear and a "star" type motor.
There was no support from the Romanian leadership, so the project dropped dead.

However, in 1937 the Romanian engineers from IAR started the design of a Romanian fighter. The action was in secrecy, as the official support was non-existent. Lacking money and understanding that they have to save time, the Romanian engineers decided to make faster the process by using parts from planes already manufactured at IAR under license.
Parts of the body were inspired from the Polish planes P-11f and PZL P-24. The wings were the replica at scale 1:2 of the wings of the Italian bomber Savoia Marchetti SM-79b, built at Brasov as JRS-79b.

Only in 1939 the leadership of Romania understood the advantages of making our own fighter, better than the planes obtained through license. The prototype of the IAR-80 was rushed to be ready for the parade of May 10, 1939 - the Dynasty / King's Day, the greatest celebration in the Royal Romania.
The prototype flew at the parade, on May 10, 1939. In that moment it was No. 4 in the world, regarding speed in horizontal flight.

Posted by: Iamandi June 20, 2005 05:33 am
QUOTE (sid guttridge @ Jun 18 2005, 09:14 AM)
Hi Iamandi.

I thought the IAR80 was inspired by the Polish PZL24, not the Hurricane.

Cheers,

Sid.

Thanks, but is not like that... I don't say nothing, because Florin explained what was to explain.

IAR 80/81 don't look like Hurricane. smile.gif

Anyway, if you know more about IK-2 and/or IK-3, you are welcome. Were nice planes, and what yugoslav pilots was doing is heroism.

Iama

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