RAF/Commonwealth operations over Romania, recce, night bombings, targets, losses

I have that book and it's very informative.

Now, we should also look for reconnaissance flights over Rumania, performed by RAF machines.

Gen. Dénes

Here is a photo from F D T L
of P.McDonald at the comemoration of the RAF downed airmen in Rumania....Dan has posted already photos of this cemitary




This post has been edited by alexkdl on March 02, 2005 12:04 pm

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According the Through Darkness to Light only 21 RAF bombers were shot down over Rumania rest crashed in other countries and also during T/O and LNDG at own bases...The figures includes also SAAF , RAAF and RNZAF crews who flew under RAF...as you can see now , the previous losses figures posted on here over Rumania were totally exagerated.


Date TARGET CRASH SITE Fate of the Crew
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3-4 May 44 Bucuresti UNKNOWN all 5 POW
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5/6 May Campina Valea Lunga all 5 KIA burried Tincabesti
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67/ May Bucuresti Castranova 1 KIA Tincabesti 4 POW
Comana 5 KIA Tincabesti
Belciug 5 KIA Tincabesti
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7/8 May Bucuresti Vartoapele 4KIA Tincabesti/ 1 POW
Talpa / Biscoveni 5 KIA " "
Prejba de Sus 2 KIA " " 2 POW
Farcasele 5 KIA " "
Lunguletzu 5 KIA " "
Spatereni 5 POW
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28/29 June ALL MIA
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This post has been edited by alexkdl on March 02, 2005 12:39 pm

This figures include also SAAF lost bombers ?

This post has been edited by Cantacuzino on March 02, 2005 12:51 pm

Date TARGET CRASH SITE Fate of the Crew
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2/3 July 1944 Bucuresti Macesul 1KIA Tincabesti / 4 POW
Furculesti 4 KIA " " / 2 POW
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27/28 July Bucuresti Crucea de Piatra 5 KIA Tincabesti
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9/10 Aug Ploesti 2 X Cotroceni / Orac 10 KIA Tincabesti
Caciulati 5 KIA " "
Dodrotesti 4 KIA Tincabesti 1 POW
Unknown 1 KIA Tincabesti

1 acft x 4 crew members bailed out due to an error & POW ...acft returned to base

Ciocanesti 1 KIA Tincabesti 5 POW
Corbi Mari 5 KIA " "

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17/18 Ploesti Contesti 5 KIA Tincabesti
MIA 5 MIA
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This post has been edited by alexkdl on March 02, 2005 12:36 pm

From this book TDL what are the total amount for Commonwealth looses ( planes and men) due to missions over Romania in '44.( not only the crashes in romanian teritory).

Dan.

46 Aircraft losses on all teritorries due to fighter activity , AA, T/O and LNDG crashes as well mid airs ( 21 in Rumania)

154 aircrew dead including those of RAF, RAAF, SAAF and RNZAF

73 POW

27 have evaded

Alex

This post has been edited by alexkdl on March 02, 2005 12:42 pm

For those who don't know "Crucea de Piatra" was the name of a street with pleasure houses ( case de toleranta). Pictures from this street were posted at "Bucharest then and now". Below it's the link.
http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?sh...pic=1736&st=300

Dan.

Alex, i think the data from TDL book i'ts not complete it should be at least 22 planes shot down. The list on french books have more complete info including the posible german pilot credited with the victory. Exemple : missing from TDL list is Wellington BL-Q ( LN 982) crashed at Balta Greaca lake in Romania ( near the Danube) the crew was parachuted or escaped in Bulgaria and taken POW.

Below it's the complete list from the french book (La chasse de nuit ... )



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Dan

My previous American designee FAA Aeromedical Doc in Switzerland whos originally from Australia and lives by now since 40 years in Switzerland , used to fly Beaufighters and later on the Wellingtons as Navigator as well over Rumania, but also me becuase I lived near Cotroceni ....would like to know about the faith of the aircarft which crashed at Cotroceni on Aug 9/10 1944 manned by the crew

PLT Sgt W.E Double
CPLT Sgt J.E.Chusing
NAV Sgt A.J.Curin
B Sgt J.S. Wilson
G Sgt B,Bell

( a flight manned by low ranked enlisted aircrews,,,which was a bizare thing
at the RAF...at 15th AF all bomber pilots were officers )

They are all burried at Tincabesti.....from my mom I heard that they heard about the the RAF crash at Cotroceni and many curious people were around....is there anyway you could get more details about this aircraft ?

One aircraft crashed at Caciulati which is the closest village near Snagov....there are no other crashes on Mc Donald map 4 engined bomber near Snagov which was mentioned on previous posts .


Bellow is the bombing results directed at ARR 1st Air Defense Regiment Hdq on Saturday May 6th 1944

From : TDTL


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The photo bellow is of the Wellington of F/O Denys ( tallest mid picture) this crew flew on June 22,1944 their group target was not well identified and bombs fell at periferal zones ....Herastrau , Damaroia ,Giulesti , Banaeasa and Popesti

FDTL

PS : Dan can you post photos from the French book ?

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Could be the same place as today near Baneasa on the national road ?.

It looks only small damage to the main building ( a hole in the roof).

I will look in that french book maybe i will find more details.
Below it's the aircraft I.D.


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Yes.


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