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Posted by: Imperialist June 13, 2011 12:15 pm
We are fast approaching the 70th anniversary of the start of the biggest armed clash in the 20th century.

To mark this I have started a blog that follows the daily news leading up to June 22 as it appeared in the press:

http://zilederazboi.wordpress.com/

I plan to follow Barbarossa day by day and I would be glad to hear your suggestions.

After the first days I covered I have to say the war between Germany and the Soviet Union was hardly a surprise. Everyone with money to buy a newspaper knew it was coming.

Posted by: muggs June 13, 2011 01:07 pm
Very interesting initiative, bookmarked.

Posted by: Petre June 13, 2011 01:25 pm
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...the 70th anniversary of the start of the biggest armed clash in the 20th century

What about Sep.1939

Posted by: Imperialist June 13, 2011 03:28 pm
QUOTE (muggs @ June 13, 2011 01:07 pm)
Very interesting initiative, bookmarked.

Thank you!

Once Barbarossa starts I will post the brief official reports that the high commands of the two sides issued every day. I bet you will find them interesting, although they aren't as spectacular as one might expect.

@Petre

Operation Barbarossa was the largest military operation in human history in both manpower and casualties. [Peter Antill, Peter Dennis. Stalingrad 1942. Osprey Publishing, 2007,ISBN 1-84603-028-5, 9781846030284. p. 7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa

Posted by: cnflyboy2000 June 21, 2011 05:34 pm
QUOTE (Imperialist @ June 13, 2011 08:28 pm)
QUOTE (muggs @ June 13, 2011 01:07 pm)
Very interesting initiative, bookmarked.

Thank you!

Once Barbarossa starts I will post the brief official reports that the high commands of the two sides issued every day. I bet you will find them interesting, although they aren't as spectacular as one might expect.

@Petre

Operation Barbarossa was the largest military operation in human history in both manpower and casualties. [Peter Antill, Peter Dennis. Stalingrad 1942. Osprey Publishing, 2007,ISBN 1-84603-028-5, 9781846030284. p. 7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa

"We have only to kick in the door and the whole rotten structure will come crashing down"

Posted by: Florin March 23, 2012 02:26 am
Guess what was Restricted Security Information in January 1952, at Washington DC... cool.gif
http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/20234/20234.html

If you click on the book cover, you can see it bigger and read it.
Lower in this link you can click on "Contents".

Posted by: Florin March 23, 2012 03:29 am
Interesting website: lots and lots of maps !
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/maps.htm

Romania:
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/maps/maps1944S.htm#2UF_RM

http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/maps/maps1944S.htm#3UF_RM

Hungary:
http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/maps/maps1944S.htm#Hungary

Posted by: mabadesc March 23, 2012 04:55 pm
Imperialist wrote:
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Once Barbarossa starts I will post the brief official reports that the high commands of the two sides issued every day. I bet you will find them interesting, although they aren't as spectacular as one might expect


Good project, Imperialist. Where do you find the day-by-day quotes? I am sure they must be public record, but are they compiled in one place or scattered? In any case, looks like you gave up on the effort? Too bad, it would have provided an interesting angle.

Florin wrote:
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Guess what was Restricted Security Information in January 1952, at Washington DC...
http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/20234/20234.html

Florin, it is no secret the Americans (and all other large allies) were interested in obtaining MI knowledge in combined arms warfare conducted by Germany against USSR. At one point in the late '40's-early '50's, they had a "pool" of more than 100 (later down to 60) former Wehrmacht generals who contributed with written detailed case studies of their battles on the Eastern Front. In their writings they include tactical mistakes/successes as well as assess the Soviets' military behavior.
Some of these have long been declassified and can be purchased as books. General Raus's case studies and experiences were deemed particularly useful for the US from a tactical perspective in dealing with a potential US-USSR conflict. Note: the Raus Memoirs currently available on amazon are just a summary of some of his experiences aimed at the general history buff. There was, however, a previously published Raus book divided into distinct case studies and analyses of battles. Almost like a series of lectures. Interesting stuff. Thanks for bringing it up.

Posted by: Florin September 06, 2012 04:08 am
The YouTube link below goes to some propagandistic bulls**t – Hitler's speech on October 3 - 1941 (I am assuming in Reichstag), justifying Operation Barbarossa.
If it is too annoying or boring to follow it, jump to moment 3:44. From there it worth a little bit of attention – and at moment 4:20 the subject is Romania.
Romania is mentioned again at 13:28.
He made typical politician statements… "Catch me if you can" (that's my statement).
The images and video clips do not synchronize with the speech, but that is the YouTube author’s problem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CksyZ2xIKXk&feature=related

Posted by: Imperialist September 07, 2012 11:48 am
QUOTE (mabadesc @ March 23, 2012 04:55 pm)
Good project, Imperialist. Where do you find the day-by-day quotes? I am sure they must be public record, but are they compiled in one place or scattered? In any case, looks like you gave up on the effort? Too bad, it would have provided an interesting angle.

Thank you. Yes, I had to abandon it for the time being because my plan of posting stuff on a day-to-day basis turned to be difficult to keep up. Other life events became a priority. I'll try to pick up where I left. But I need some feedback. What would readers be more interested in - the day-to-day stuff (the feeling of reading the daily newspaper) or me posting only if I find something interesting and worthy of attention, irrespective of date?

Posted by: MMM September 07, 2012 03:53 pm
Well, both variants are interesting, but it's certainly easier to post only the "big" stuff...
Try it that way and eventually you can "upgrade" it!

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