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Posted by: New Governor Of Alaska November 04, 2007 07:42 pm
They did march in Moscow but not the way they planed... biggrin.gif

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Immensely huge columns of German POWs, without end to the horizon, were driven through the Moscow streets in 1943 and 1944. Hundreds of thousands of losers ...
Or lucky ones to remain alive?

I am looking for the same type of photos of Germans in Moscow...

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Posted by: Imperialist November 05, 2007 06:19 am
QUOTE (New Governor Of Alaska @ November 04, 2007 07:42 pm)
Hundreds of thousands of losers ...

Normally that should have been edited by moderators.

Posted by: Cantacuzino November 05, 2007 08:19 am
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Hundreds of thousands of losers ...
Or lucky ones to remain alive?


POW polish officers killed at Katyn do you considering also loosers (by your judgement) and not so lucky to remain alive ?

Posted by: dragos November 05, 2007 10:54 am
New Governor Of Alaska, if you are interested in photographs of POW in Moscow, you can ask politely.

If you are interested in a flame war then you are in the wrong place. This is a civilized forum, focused on historical facts, not on ideologies or politics.

Posted by: New Governor Of Alaska November 05, 2007 05:56 pm
QUOTE (dragos @ November 05, 2007 10:54 am)
New Governor Of Alaska, if you are interested in photographs of POW in Moscow, you can ask politely.

If you are interested in a flame war then you are in the wrong place. This is a civilized forum, focused on historical facts, not on ideologies or politics.

Well, was I rude? No. I did ask politely.
Quote - I am looking for the same type of photos of Germans in Moscow...

And this thread IS about historical facts.

Fact - Germans lost the war,
Fact - they got a chance to march on the streets of Moscow.

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German POWs never-ending columns were passing by the famous Belorussky Railway Station in Moscow.
Thousands, thousands, and thousands...

Now, at last, they could have a look at Moscow... Although not just in the way Hitler had expected them to. Noticeably enough, it was exactly from the Belorussky Railway Station that the Red Army troops used to leave the capital for the front line.

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Posted by: dragos November 05, 2007 06:30 pm
QUOTE (New Governor Of Alaska @ November 05, 2007 08:56 pm)
Now, at last, they could have a look at Moscow...

If you are interested in photographs, you can drop such kind of side remarks. It can be harmful or insulting for people that took part in the war, or related to them, no matter on which side they were involved.

P.S. I will ask you not to post the same link below each of your post. Advertising is not allowed according to the forum rules.

Posted by: Dénes November 05, 2007 08:26 pm
And the source of photos is not mentioned, either. Another breach of the forum's rules... tongue.gif

Gen. Dénes

Posted by: New Governor Of Alaska November 05, 2007 08:48 pm
QUOTE (Dénes @ November 05, 2007 08:26 pm)
And the source of photos is not mentioned, either. Another breach of the forum's rules...  tongue.gif

Gen. Dénes

I did provide the source of information, Dénes.
I assume you just didn't notice this:

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This post has been edited by dragos on November 05, 2007 06:31 pm



Posted by: Dénes November 08, 2007 12:16 pm
QUOTE (New Governor Of Alaska @ November 05, 2007 01:42 am)
I am looking for the same type of photos of Germans in Moscow...

As per your request, here is a German soldier who ended up in Moscow (not as planned, though):
user posted image
[Source: eBay]

Gen. Dénes

Posted by: Cantacuzino November 08, 2007 12:50 pm
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I am looking for the same type of photos of Germans in Moscow


I found a nice picture posible related to the subject but I don't know russian to read.
The source http://www.tankmuseum.ru/7dec26.html

Under picture is written:"Битва за Москву", зима 1941/ 1942 гг.

German panzers attacking Moskva.

http://imageshack.us

Posted by: Cantacuzino November 08, 2007 01:17 pm
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I am looking for the same type of photos of Germans in Moscow


Another picture with germans at Moskau
Source:http://www.past-to-present.com/photos.cfm?reference=E00226

Caption reads : Germans Raid Moscow: -Aided by the darkness, German airplanes, attempting a mass raid on Moscow late July21, set fire to several buildings in the central district, caused a small number of casualties and left one big bomb crater in Manege Square (Manezhnaya Square) opposite the American Embassy. This photo, from file, shows a general view of Manege Square. The buildings, from right to left, are: the Hotel National, the American Embassy, the old building of the Moscow State University, new building of University; in the center is building of former riding school; to the left a park and part of the Kremlin; in the distance the Moskva River.

http://imageshack.us

And another picture from the same source

Caption reads : Orel Falls On German Drive To Moscow.
A unit of Germany's mechanized army rolls down a deserted street in Orel, Southwest of Moscow, after the city fell before the blitz tactics of the Axis power. Reports indicate this drive finds German columns extending East of the longitude of Moscow
http://imageshack.us



Posted by: Cantacuzino November 08, 2007 01:36 pm
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I am looking for the same type of photos of Germans in Moscow


From: http://www.past-to-present.com/photos.cfm?reference=E00228

Caption reads : Russian Prisoner Being Questioned.
On Moscow Front--Soviet prisoner being questioned after his capture on the Moscow front. Photo radioed from Berlin to New York, today Dec7

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Posted by: dragos November 08, 2007 01:49 pm
QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ November 08, 2007 03:50 pm)
QUOTE
I am looking for the same type of photos of Germans in Moscow


I found a nice picture posible related to the subject but I don't know russian to read.
The source http://www.tankmuseum.ru/7dec26.html

Under picture is written:"Битва за Москву", зима 1941/ 1942 гг.

German panzers attacking Moskva.

http://imageshack.us

It must be a still from a movie, because the tanks looks like a T-34/85 and something that resembles a Tiger.

Posted by: Cantacuzino November 08, 2007 03:06 pm
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It must be a still from a movie, because the tanks looks like a T-34/85 and something that resembles a Tiger


Possible from a "Moskva war" reenactment movie rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Alexei2102 November 08, 2007 08:19 pm
QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ November 08, 2007 03:06 pm)
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It must be a still from a movie, because the tanks looks like a T-34/85 and something that resembles a Tiger


Possible from a "Moskva war" reenactment movie rolleyes.gif

Nope - the movie is "Osvobozhdenie"

Posted by: Cantacuzino November 08, 2007 08:36 pm
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Nope - the movie is "Osvobozhdenie"


Alexei could you translate what means "Osvobozhdenie" unsure.gif

Posted by: Alexei2102 November 08, 2007 09:06 pm
QUOTE (Cantacuzino @ November 08, 2007 08:36 pm)
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Nope - the movie is "Osvobozhdenie"


Alexei could you translate what means "Osvobozhdenie" unsure.gif

Liberation - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151852/

As a side note - Florin Piersic plays Skorzeny tongue.gif

Cheers,

Al

Posted by: osutacincizecisidoi November 14, 2007 02:31 pm
Must have bean in a break from " Lacrimi de iubire" biggrin.gif

Posted by: guina November 15, 2007 11:40 am
Cantacuzino,
The capture on the picture reads :
7 dec. 2004.Theatralized representation "eshalons of victory"on Taganskaya divisions poligon in honour of 63 aniversary of Red Army counterofensive near Moscow,5 dec.1941
As for the picture of Manejnii Sq.some of the buildings mentioned are located elswere.
Take care

Posted by: New Governor Of Alaska November 15, 2007 11:40 pm
QUOTE (Dénes @ November 08, 2007 12:16 pm)
QUOTE (New Governor Of Alaska @ November 05, 2007 01:42 am)
I am looking for the same type of photos of Germans in Moscow...

As per your request, here is a German soldier who ended up in Moscow (not as planned, though):
user posted image
[Source: eBay]

Gen. Dénes



That's some sort of ID card. This is NOT wat I was asking for.
Do you have any photos of German soldiers IN ACTION?


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Henry L. Stismon
Secretary Of War

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Posted by: New Connaught Ranger November 16, 2007 07:27 am
No its not "some sort of id card", rolleyes.gif

it is in fact a "Memoriam Card" or so called Death Card, sent by the Family to Relatives and close friends upon the death of a person, in this case a German pilot killed on the 13th of October 1941 on a mission over Moscow. aged 21.

The sending of this type of card is a predominantly Catholic tradition which still takes place today in many Catholic Countries.


The "movie still" looks more like a model tank diorama in 1/35th scale posed in front of a photographic background!!!:unsure:

Kevin in Deva biggrin.gif

Posted by: Dénes November 16, 2007 08:38 am
QUOTE (New Governor Of Alaska @ November 16, 2007 05:40 am)
That's some sort of ID card. This is NOT wat I was asking for.
Do you have any photos of German soldiers IN ACTION?

NGOA, as this German Death Card notes, this soldier died IN ACTION, over Moscow. That's why I thought it might be of interest to you.

Gen. Dénes
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"The Soviet Union is an Evil Empire, and Soviet Communism is the focus of evil in the modern world."
Ronald Reagan

Posted by: New Governor Of Alaska November 17, 2007 01:26 am
QUOTE (Dénes @ November 16, 2007 08:38 am)
NGOA, as this German Death Card notes, this soldier died IN ACTION, over Moscow. That's why I thought it might be of interest to you.

Gen. Dénes

Gen. Dénes, I am not interested in death certificates.

I assume that German thought he would march in Moscow the same way his contrymen march in Paris....
Well, it seems like the story of Napoleon didn't teach him anything....


"History knows no greater display of courage than that shown by the people of Soviet Russia."

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Henry L. Stimson
Secretary Of War

Source - http://youtube.com/watch?v=iiL4uM6A-qE
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