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Posted by: bansaraba May 26, 2011 01:57 pm
I have some questions for those who have read a good deal of books about WWII in Romania (including Romanian ones):

1. Where could I find a list of the units stationed in Brasov (or nearby) on August 23, 1944? What about the Wehrmacht units?
2. I've read in a book a few quotes from another, unnamed Romanian book. The only indications were chapter's names, authors and pages: "Col. Atanase Chirita, Luptele din zona Brasov, p. 86, p. 88, p. 89, p. 91..."; "Gen. maj. Alexandru Tenescu, In zona orasului Sf. Gheorghe, p. 152, p. 154, p. 156-157...". Does anyone know what book this is?

Any help would me much appreciated!

Posted by: sebipatru May 26, 2011 04:48 pm
try to read Bateria albastra
its a communist book but relates the events in the area in august september 44

Posted by: Radub May 26, 2011 05:16 pm
QUOTE (bansaraba @ May 26, 2011 01:57 pm)

2. I've read in a book a few quotes from another, unnamed Romanian book. The only indications were chapter's names, authors and pages: "Col. Atanase Chirita, Luptele din zona Brasov, p. 86, p. 88, p. 89, p. 91..."; "Gen. maj. Alexandru Tenescu, In zona orasului Sf. Gheorghe, p. 152, p. 154, p. 156-157...". Does anyone know what book this is?

Any help would me much appreciated!

The book is "Armata Romana in Razboiul Anti-Hitlerist", Editura Politica 1965.
This is a book consisting of recollections by various people, soldiers, "workers" that took part in the events around and following 23 August 1944.
HTH
Radu

Posted by: C-2 May 26, 2011 06:13 pm
http://curentul.net/2009/11/24/nastase-scatiu/

Posted by: SATHOR May 27, 2011 08:54 am
Interesting story...

Posted by: bansaraba May 27, 2011 01:47 pm
QUOTE (sebipatru @ May 26, 2011 04:48 pm)
try to read Bateria albastra
its a communist book but relates the events in the area in august september 44

In "Bateria Albastra" I've read those quotes!

Radub, thank you very much!

Posted by: bansaraba May 27, 2011 02:05 pm
QUOTE (C-2 @ May 26, 2011 06:13 pm)
http://curentul.net/2009/11/24/nastase-scatiu/

That story is full of crap, I believe, an article about the actions of lt. Marin Nastase, called "a hero", and his unit had already been published in "Drum Nou" from 17 November 1944.

Posted by: C-2 May 27, 2011 07:35 pm
How can you tell?
About the crap,,,,

Posted by: bansaraba May 28, 2011 09:26 am
If that blog suggests that Marin Nastase invented his story in the 1970s-1980s just to be a communist hero or something, I believe other info might be just as wrong, and that's exactly the problem: you don't know what's true or not.

Besides, the story in that blog about his "heroic acts" in Brasov is pure fantesy, those who have read anything regarding Bateria albastra should notice that.

Posted by: sebipatru May 28, 2011 01:19 pm
the story from bateria albastra is true
i'm from the area
and for me all the names from that book are familiars Podu Olt, Chichis, Ilieni, Doboli, Lunca Calnicului, Harman
Actually is a monument in Podu Olt, to celebrate this unit, where thay defended that metal bridge

Posted by: Petre May 28, 2011 06:13 pm
http://www.monitorulexpres.ro/index.php?mod=monitorulexpres&a=citeste&p=actualitate&s_id=6880


Posted by: C-2 May 29, 2011 05:52 am
My grandfather was at the Don ...
1000 times more hero then all those guys together.
And btw.He never pretended of being a hero.
And he wasn't burried in the middle of the centrat alley of the military cemetry in Bucharest.

Posted by: bansaraba May 29, 2011 11:58 am
Neither did Nastase, but the communists needed heroes, and you know how they could exaggerate in those cases...

The sad story of your grandfather, as of many others who have fought in the east, does not make the story of Bateria Albastra less true.

Posted by: C-2 May 29, 2011 04:23 pm
First of all,anyone can write anything.
So any story written about this Bateria Albastra,can be true or faik.
As you wrote,comunists needed heros.
That's the chronic problem with romania,the real talented people,the real inventors,the real heros are moked ,forgoten,ignored.And the scums are raising like s....t in the water.

Posted by: bansaraba May 29, 2011 06:47 pm
We all have the freedom to believe anything we want about everything. But first, we have to read as many sources as we can. I believe we got slightly offtopic anyway.

Posted by: C-2 May 29, 2011 06:58 pm
In an era that history started at 23/8/1944 ,when all low lifes became generals profesors ,hight ranking oficials and ...yes writers and editors I can be sceptical about this kind of invented heros.

Posted by: Florin May 30, 2011 03:46 am
QUOTE (C-2 @ May 29, 2011 12:52 am)
My grandfather was at the Don ...
1000 times more hero then all those guys together.
And btw.He never pretended of being a hero.
And he wasn't burried in the middle of the centrat alley of the military cemetry in Bucharest.

The more somebody fought in a war, the more he suffered, the less the need to talk later about that. Usually the real veterans don't brag about what they did - they keep their memories for themselves.

Posted by: C-2 May 30, 2011 09:32 am
True...
And the less they fought greater heros they are....

Posted by: bansaraba May 30, 2011 02:33 pm
Btw,

1) Do you have any stories from your grandfather? It would be nice to share some impressions & memories
2) Could a moderator open a separate topic for our current discussion?

Posted by: MMM October 31, 2012 06:36 pm
Re: Marin Nastase, 2-nd motorized artillery: I've just found today a reprimand from 09.1940, because he didn't salute, being busy entertaining a female companion. This is fresh from the military archives. wink.gif

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