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Posted by: Darius333 March 08, 2015 08:11 pm
Hello friends,

we are looking for more details about the action at Harsova on 24.-26.08.1944.
In those days there were some german vessels taken by Romanian forces int this port but were again taken on 26.08. by the Gruppe Zieb and maybe self destroyed.

We have the following names:
-FW 16,
-FW 17,
-"432" (Pionierfähre of the Pionier-Landungs-Btl. 214),
-3 Pionierlandungsboote (Pioneerlanding craft) of the same Pi.Ldgs.Btl. 214,
-maybe some more ex austrian vessels.

The Marinefährprahm "F 576" was also destroyed in this action.

We have a topic here:
http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php/topic,23467.0.html

and need your help with any information from Romanian sources.

Thank you

Darius

Posted by: Petre March 09, 2015 04:59 pm
Hallo Darius.
Unfortunately romanian sources are lacking. Some time ago I posted adapted translations from some german web pages. And other romanian informations :

http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=189&st=0

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=362723
http://www.si-games.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-6409-p-7.html
http://www.polpi.net/neue%20geschichten.htm

Posted by: Taz1 March 11, 2015 08:28 pm
I have a question. has been said here on forum that on August 26, 1944 was a battle between romanian and german army at Cernavoda. It talks about the 6390 KIA for the romanian army 480 KIA for the german army.
These figures are real?
If are real then it would mean that at Cernavoda on 26/08/1944 was one of the greatest disasters for the Romanian army as in Oarba de Mures.
In some articles it speaks in articles about the fact that the Romanian army captured at that time in Cernavoda about 10500 german soldiers that is hard to belive .

Posted by: Florin March 12, 2015 06:43 am
QUOTE (Taz1 @ March 11, 2015 03:28 pm)
I have a question. has been said here on forum  that on August 26, 1944 was a battle between romanian and german army at Cernavoda. It talks about the 6390 KIA for the romanian army 480 KIA for the german army.
These figures are real?
If are real then it would mean that at Cernavoda on 26/08/1944 was one of the greatest disasters for the Romanian army as in Oarba de Mures.
In some articles it speaks in articles about the fact that the Romanian army captured at that time in Cernavoda about 10500 german  soldiers that is hard to belive .

I think the first step would be to check if there were as many Romanian troops around Cernavoda in those days as to afford to lose 6390 people from the total number.
Personally I am skeptical. I am very well aware that the Cernavoda bridge was a strategic objective, but in those days there were many other locations that needed every soldier that the Romanian command could possibly muster, and the Romanian army was limited in numbers, having from start 120,000 soldiers surrendering in Moldavia and lost for any action.

Posted by: Darius333 March 14, 2015 10:26 pm
Thank you Petre.

Maybe there will be some information in any archives in Roumania?

Darius

Posted by: Petre March 15, 2015 11:52 am
As I remember, the post Victor, August 10, 2003 was an official report of Ro. Navy Staff.
Somebody wrote about the first fights at Piua Petrii, that is somewhere near Hârşova, but today is missing.

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