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Posted by: Tiornu May 09, 2009 01:40 am

Older sources I've seen (English-language) refer to the submarine as Requinul. Now, Rechinul is most common. Was there a change in Romanian orthography to explain the different spellings?

Posted by: Petre May 09, 2009 04:16 am

Off topic (to be deleted) : The name was "Rechinul" (The Shark") (Rechin - Shark). To correct pronunciation in english, sometimes it was wrote Requinul. (in romanian chi pronounces as qui).

Posted by: Tiornu May 09, 2009 05:05 pm

Has there been a change in Romanian spelling since 1945? I ran into a lot of problems with this when listing Brazilian naval vessels. The spellings during World War II were different from the current spellings. The same is true with transliterations from Greek.

Posted by: Petre May 10, 2009 05:19 am

No changes in Romanian spelling from a lot af time, and I think, also in manny languages.

Posted by: Dénes May 10, 2009 07:29 am

Some Rumanian names did change from WW2-era. For example, back then the 'oil capital' city was called Ploesti, nowadays is spelled Ploiesti.

I always use the names in use in the discussed time period, to respect historical accuracy, namely 'the bombing of Ploesti by the 15th USAAF', etc.

Gen. Dénes

Posted by: Victor May 10, 2009 09:28 am

To sum it up, there was no change fron "requinul" to "rechinul".

Posted by: Tiornu May 10, 2009 07:08 pm

Like Dénes, I prefer to use the spelling that was current at the time. But if Rechinul was always Rechinul, that settles it. It seems an odd error for books to spell the name incorrectly, but it has always struck me as odd that English-language sources could never reach a consensus on how to spell Romania either.

Posted by: Tiornu May 10, 2009 07:09 pm

Hey, while we're on the subject, what do the names Delfinul and Marsuinul mean? Hm, I guess I can figure out Delfinul on my own, but not Marsuinul.

Posted by: Alexei2102 May 10, 2009 07:27 pm

marsuin

1. zool. porpoise
2. zool. sea hog (Phocaena communis)

Posted by: Tiornu May 10, 2009 07:34 pm

Thanks to all.

Posted by: Petre May 26, 2009 10:01 am

According to Gherman Salov - "(Sov.)Navy Fleet Submarines in (WW2) 1941-1945 (the chronicle of operations). The Black Sea fleet", 2005. Internet : Operations of Ge. Ro. and It. submarines on Black sea in the WW2 1941-45 :

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On Aug.29, 1944 "Rechinul" and "Marsuinul" have been grasped by Sov. in Constantza, and on Sep.12 "Delfinul" - in the Danube port Izlaz where has been translated from Galatz because of threat of air bombardments.
On Sep.14 all three submarines have been enlisted in Sov.Black Sea fleet under the old names, but in the Ru. transcription. Since Oct.20 were renamed on standard for the Soviet submarines as TS-1, TS-2 and TS-3 (from Ru. trofeinaya srednaya = trophy medium). After the war, ТS-3 has been decided to return Ro. and it has been officially transferred by representatives of the Sov.Black Sea fleet to the Romanian colleagues on Oct.12, 1945 in Galatz. In April, 1946 it again as "Delfinul" has become operational and has entered officially into structure already friendly of the Romanian Navy fleet. When in the Sov.fleet the uniform system of a designation has been entered, the letter «N» (Nemetskaya - German) was for all trophy and reparation ships (irrespective of their origin), on Aug.4, 1947 ТS-1 and ТS-2 have been renamed accordingly in N-39 and N-40. On Jan.12th 1949 they have been officially carried to a class of medium subs and again renamed accordingly in S-39 and S-40. On Jul.3, 1951 С-39 as has been returned Romania and under the old name Rechinul began to be a part again of the Romanian Navy. S-40 Has been disarmed and handed over for dismantling on metal.