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|Posted by: PT Dockyard August 08, 2003 11:35 pm|
| Can anyone point me to books or websites that would detail operations of Hungarian, Romanian, German and Soviet naval vessels on the Danube during 1944-45. I am specifically looking for:
-Details and pictures of any Hungarian craft
-Descriptions in English of battles
-Use of Soviet "Air Glissers"-small armed boats with aircraft engines. The Romanians captured one in 1941.
I have books covering the Romanian Navy but very, very, very little on the Hungarians. Any help is appreciated.
|Posted by: Csaba Becze August 09, 2003 12:51 am|
| You don't find any English books about Hungarian river forces.
A good Hungarian work Károly Csonkaréti's book (Haditengerészek és folyamőrök a Dunán)
|Posted by: Wawrzyniec August 09, 2003 10:00 am|
| Hallo Dave,
Contact me, please:
I could help you a bit.
Greetings from Poland,
|Posted by: Dr_V August 09, 2003 08:53 pm|
| The Hungarian Honoved River Force (created in 1922 for river police purposes) :
River patrol vessels:
- Godollo : jan. 1915 Budapest, 60 tons, 11 knots, crew 18, Armor bullet-proof belt, guns: 1x70mm, 1x 1 pounder pom-pom AA, 3 MG.
- 4x Debrecen class ( Debrecen, Gyor, Baja, Sopron) 1918 Budapest, 140 tons, 15 knots, crew 44, guns: 2x70mm, 2MG.
- 2x Szeged class (Szeged, Kcskemet) 1915-16 Budapest, 133 tons, 15 knots, crew 44, guns: 2x70mm, 2MG
Depot ship: Csobank : Budapest 1928, 305 tons, 8 knots, crew 18, no guns
Training ship : Badacsony 10 knots [I don't have details]
3x ML : Honved, Huszar, Tuzer: 17 tons, (?) 1MG AA [have no more details about them]
I have pictures of 4 patrol vessels (Godollo, Debrecen, Sopron, Szeged) and the depot ship. Tell me your e-mail and I'll send them to you.
|Posted by: Dénes August 09, 2003 09:12 pm|
| Here you can find more detailed info on the Danube ships of the Honvéd Folyami Erök (although the info is incomplete and sometimes erroneous, but it's in English):
|Posted by: PT Dockyard August 10, 2003 01:22 am|
| Wow- what a ton of information on my first post. I LOVE this forum. Thanks Wawrzyniec for the drawings and the map!
I see that the Debrechen was modified with a German quadruple 20mm in 1944. Were the others in her class also modified in this way?
Also, I note that the armored gunboat PM-1 was in an action in 1944. Were the PM-2 to 6 also built?
Were there any actions between the Hungarian and Romanian/Soviet river flotillas in 1944/45?
|Posted by: Victor August 10, 2003 06:36 am|
| Immediately after 23 August 1944, the Romanian river forces entered action against the German vessels which were attempting to retreat on the Danube, attacking Romanian ports on the way. They were reorganized like this:
-1st River Group (NMS Catargiu and NMS Lahovary monitors)
-2nd River Group (NMS Bratianu and NMS Catargiu monitors)
-3rd River Group (NMS Ardeal, NMS Basarabia and NMS Bucovina monitors)
-Dredging Flotilla (19 ships)
-Security Flotilla (7 ships)
-Upper Danube Detachment
-Middle Danube Detachment
The 1st and 3rd River Groups captured between 28 and 30 August: 16 armed tugs, 3 artillery pontoons, a medical convoy, 68 barges. They also blocked German ships in the Calafat (97), Gruia (3),Corabia (27) and Bistret ports (21), where they were seized.
The NMS Sborul torpedo-boat was at Cernavoda on 23 August. On 25 August it sunk a German armed tug and captured 9 supply ships near Harsova.
The Upper Danube Detachment took part in numerous actions, mainly in support of Romanian or Soviet ground forces. It also laid two mine barrages at km. 910-911 and 913-914 blocking two German convoys (about 60 ships), which were scuttled. On 21-22 September it sunk four German vessels near Turnu Severin. After that the Romanian forces were mostly used for dredging, loosing quite a few ships in these actions.
Btw, Dr_V you can see another member's e-mail under his post where there is a button email
|Posted by: Csaba Becze August 10, 2003 09:08 am|
The Hungarian ships had a lot of new AA weapons in late 1944/early 1945 (and some others).
Between the Hungarian and Soviet ships was not any engagement in Danube.
|Posted by: Th. Dorgeist August 10, 2003 02:05 pm|
| Hallo Viktor,
in sehr vielen Quellen kann man lesen wie viele Schiffe die rumänischen Fluss – Monitore auf der Donau im August und September 1944
erbeutet und / oder versenkt haben.
Ich bzw. vermutlich auch viele andere Leser, habe eine riesig große Anzahl Schiffe mit den Vermerk :
„24.August 1944 im unteren Donaubereich in Verlust geraten“
„Beim Umsturz in Rumänien geblieben“
Wenn man so genaue Anzahlen über die erbeuteten usw. Schiffe hat ist es nicht wahrscheinlich das es Kriegstagebücher und vielleicht andere Quellen gibt wo die Namen der einzelnen Schiffe zu finden sind?
Ich habe, wenn die Namen bekannt wären zu praktisch allen Schiffen, Fahrzeugen, Leichtern und Booten genauere Angaben und würde diese
Jederzeit austauschen und weiter geben.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
in very many sources one can read like many ships the Romanian rivermonitors on the Danube in August and September 1944 captured and/or sank.
I and/or probably also many other readers, have an enormous large number of ships with the note:
„ 24.08,1944 within the lower Danube range in loss turn out“
„Beim revolution remained in Romania“
If one so details number over the captured etc.. Has is does it sail not probably it war diaries and different sources perhaps gives where the names of the individual ships to find is ??
I have, if the names were to practically all ships, vehicles, lighters and boats more exact data and
this admits would exchange at any time and would continue to give.
|Posted by: Dr_V August 10, 2003 08:11 pm|
| Thanks for the tip Victor, but user "PT Dockyard" has no e-mail posted on the public forum. No offence, but i did looked for it.
|Posted by: Der Maresal August 12, 2003 03:16 am|
| May I ask if Hungary has a navy, however small it may be...?
Hungary is a land-locked country with no access to water or sea, except Lake Balaton the largest in east europe and also the danube where could hungary develop a navy?
* Why was "Admiral" Horty of Hungary named "Admiral", I din't think it has anything to do with Navy...
" köszönöm " :wink:
|Posted by: Geto-Dacul August 12, 2003 03:29 am|
| Der Maresal wrote :
During World War I (1914-1918) he became admiral of the Austro-Hungarian navy. He retained this title even after the partition of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, until October 1944, when he was removed by a German coup d'état, for trying to conclude an armistice with the USSR.
|Posted by: Dénes August 12, 2003 03:41 am|
| Getu's is right: Rear-Admiral Miklós Horthy received his rank while he was enrolled in the Austro-Hungarian Navy. In fact, he was the overall Commanding Officer of the A.-H. Navy from Febr. 28, 1918.
Horthy lead many naval battles, was even wounded in one such battle; however, he stayed in command despite his wounds and lead the battle from his stretcher...
He kept his rank throughout his life.
P.S. Seeing that many questions regarding the Hungarian Armed Forces, it would be beneficial if we could open a separate forum, dealing with the Honvédség...
|Posted by: Victor August 12, 2003 05:54 am|
Sorry. I forgot that what is visible to me, could be invisible to you.
|Posted by: Csaba Becze August 12, 2003 04:59 pm|
| Horthy's last rank was not rear-admiral (ellentengernagy), hi was an ... admiral (altengernagy) the next, highest rank, after the rear-admiral (I don't know the exact English word).
Maresal, maybe it is unbelievable for you, but Hungary had a lot of excellent sailors
|Posted by: Dr_V August 12, 2003 07:54 pm|
|That's OK Victor. I hope you're not angry with me for that reply.|
|Posted by: Th. Dorgeist August 12, 2003 08:10 pm|
die ungarische Hochseeschiffahrt fuhr auf allen Meeren und hatte besonders im Schwarzen Meer bei den Transporten viele Angriffe durch sowj. U-Boote und besonders Luftwaffe.
Die Donauschiffahrt hatte viele Verluste durch britische Minen und Luftangriffe und die
Ungarische Donauflottille kämpfte nach allen Seiten bis zu letzten Tag des Krieges in Bayern.
Vielleicht kommt eines Tages noch die Zeit das diese Tatsache durch einige besondere Arbeiten weltweit und international etwas bekannter wird.
Ich hoffe es und würde jederzeit mein Material bei steuern.
the Hungarian high sea navigation drove on all seas and had particularly in the black sea in the case of the transportation many attacks through sowj. Submarines and particularly Air Force.
Danube shipping had many losses by British mines and air raids and the Hungarian Danube flotilla fought after all sides up to last day of the war in Bavaria.
Perhaps a daily still the time comes this fact by some special work becomes world-wide and internationally somewhat more well-known.
I hope it and my material with would at any time steer.
|Posted by: Victor August 12, 2003 08:17 pm|
|Posted by: Victor August 12, 2003 08:19 pm|
Sorry, I only have a list of Romanian losses on the Danube.
|Posted by: Th. Dorgeist August 13, 2003 06:24 am|
| Hallo Viktor,
für mich wäre es schon interessant zu erfahren ob die Kriegstagebücher der rumänischen Kanonenboote überhaupt noch vorhanden sind zu den Gefechten nach dem 24. August 1944.
In Zeiten des kalten Krieges ist es mir einmal gelungen, ich glaube im Tausch gegen Informationen zu deutschen Minenfeldern im Schwarzen Meer, zwei Dokumente aus Rumänien nach diesem Zeitpunkt zu erhalten.
Aus dem Bericht Nr. 36773 v. 1. September 1944.. 12 Uhr.
"In der Nacht vom 31 August 1944 auf 1 September 1944
wurde das Schiff "OITUZ, welches sich im Hafen Konstantza,
verankert bei Liegeplatz 22 befand, durch ein Torpedo ge-
troffen und am Heck beschädigt; wodurch dieser Schiffsteil
Man vermutet, dass der Angriff durch ein deutsches Untersee-
boot oder Schnellboot verursacht wurde."
Archiv des Ministeriums für Nationale Verteidigung
Fach 1401.Dossier Nr. 150, Blatt 75
Aus dem Bericht Nr. 12 v. 3o. Setember 1944 des Kommandanten
des Schiffes CHICULESCO IOAN
Kapitänleutnant Costin N. Constantin
1 September 1944, Stunde 3. eine grosse Detonation
alarmiert die Mannschaft.
Das Heck des Schiffes " OITUZ „ versinkt, glaube, dass es
die Wirkung einer Miene ist.
Im Laufe des Tages erfahre ich, dass ein deutsches U-Boot,
welches sich bei der Einfahrt des Hafens befand, mehrere
Torpedos in Richtung Hafenbecken, abgeschossen hat. Einer
dieser Torpedos hat das Heck des Schiffes " OITUZ ",Liege-
platz 22, getroffen. Ein anderer traf die- Quaimauer des
Archiv des Ministeriums für Nationale Verteidigung
Fach 1401.Dossier Nr. 151, Blatt 329
Also könnten bei etwas Glück ja auch andere Berichte usw. erhalten geblieben sein.
An der Liste der rumänischen Verluste auf der Donau hätte ich natürlich großes Interesse.
Dank und Gruß
for me would be it already interesting to experience whether the war diaries of the Romanian gunboats at all is still present to the engagements after 24 August 1944.
In times of the cold war I succeeded once, I believe in the exchange against information to German mine fields in the black sea to receive two documents from Romania after this time.
From the report No. 36773 v. 1 September 1944.. 12 o'clock.
"at the night from 31 August 1944 on 1 September 1944 the ship" became OITUZ, which embodied in the port Konstantza was, with couch place 22, by a torpedo ge troffen and at the tail damaged; whereby these sail-hurry sank one assumed that the attack was caused by a German Untersee boat or speedboat." Archives of the Ministry for national defense subject 1401.Dossier NR. 150, sheet 75
from the report No. 12 v. ó. Setember 1944 of the commander of the ship CHICULESCO IOAN captain second lieutenant Costin N. Constantin 1 September 1944, hour 3. a large detonation alarms the crew. The tail of the ship "OITUZ? it sinks, believes that it is the effect of an expression. In the course of the daily I experience that a German submarine, which was with the entry of the port shot several torpedoes toward harbor basins. One of these torpedoes met the tail of the ship "OITUZ", lying place 22. Another met the Quaimauer of the couch place 23.
Archives of the Ministry for national defense subject 1401.Dossier NR. 151, sheet 329 thus could have remained received with something luck also different reports etc..
At the list of the Romanian losses on the Danube I would have naturally large interest.
Owing to and greeting
|Posted by: Michi August 16, 2003 06:13 pm|
| Hello Victor,
I have some other numbers of German ships lost in the mentioned ports.
At CALAFAT(km 0795): 22(!), NOT 97, 22 German vessels were lost. Within the 22 vessels were 6 Marine-Fährprahmen (armed barges).
At GRUIA(km 0851): M/Tg "MAINZ" and 2 Marine-Fähr-Prahmen (armed barges) were lost. (you are right with 3!)
At BISTRET(km ): Is there any other name for this port??
In the area of HARSOVA/HIRSOVA/HÖRSOVA(km 0253), a larger German supply center (CO: Korvettenkapitän KUHLMANN), the Germans lost 4 Marine-Fähr-Prahmen (armed barges) and 3 other ships.
PS: My sources are from German, Austrian, Hungarian, Russian and English origin.
The only sources I miss are Romanian and Bulgarian.
|Posted by: Th. Dorgeist August 17, 2003 01:56 pm|
| Hello !
Sorry, I only have a list of Romanian losses on the Danube.
Hat man eine Chance die Verluste der rumänischen Donauschiffahrt, ( 1944 oder
1941-1945 ? ) irgendwann einmal zu Vergleichzwecken zu erhalten ??
Es gab ja nach Mai 1945 noch rumänische Schiffe in Bayern !
Does one have a chance the losses of Romanian Danube shipping, (1944 or 1941-1945?
to receive) sometime once for comparison purposes??
There were after May 1945 still Romanian ships in Bavaria!
|Posted by: C-2 August 17, 2003 07:05 pm|
|Victor is on vacantion.....|
|Posted by: Th. Dorgeist August 17, 2003 08:22 pm|
| Danke C - 2.
|Posted by: PT Dockyard August 18, 2003 01:48 am|
| Just curious- how were all these German ships "lost?" By gunfire from Romanian ships? Scuttled? Mines? Surrendered?
I would be very interested in details of any actions, especially any beween German armed barges ( MFPs or AFPs) and Romanian monitors.
The PT Dockyard
Home of the half complete master of a 1/600 Romanian monitor
|Posted by: Victor August 21, 2003 10:08 am|
14.08.1941 Barge CNR no. 296 Mile 19
20.02.1943 Barge NFR no. 619 Km 497
12.03.1943 Barge NFR no. 226 Km 497
27.09.1943 Barge NFR no. 43 Km 956
05.05.1944 Barge NFR no. 5152 Km 933
05.05.1944 Barge NFR no. 692 Km 933
05.05.1944 Barge NFR no. 640 Km 933
05.05.1944 Barge NFR no. 408 Km 933
01.06.1944 Barge NFR no. 353 Km 490
07.06.1944 Barge Ceremus Km 490
31.07.1944 Barge NFR no. 732 Km 688
31.07.1944 Tug Maria no. 732 Km 687
31.07.1944 Barge Km 687
09.08.1944 Barge JRP 16701 Km 652
11.08.1944 Barge JRP 26546 Km 676
11.08.1944 Barge DDSG 6729 Km 676
11.08.1944 Barge DDSG 10017 Km 1023
17.08.1944 Barge DDSG 9762 Km 747
17.08.1944 Tug Km 745
17.08.1944 Barge Km 736
17.08.1944 Barge DDSG 65250 Km 723
17.08.1944 Avram Iancu Km 962
20.08.1944 Barge MFTR 606 Km 809
20.08.1944 Tug Oituz Km 615
01.09.1944 Tug Bihor Km 852
01.09.1944 Tug Km 852
08.09.1944 Tug Halma Km 930
21.09.1944 Barge NFR 405 Km 878
30.09.1944 Tug Alba Iulia Km 956
04.10.1944 Barge NFR 1692 Km 1090
11.10.1944 Tug Gherdap Km 959
19.10.1944 Tug Amurgul Km 1095
25.10.1944 Tug Dambovita Km 1084
26.10.1944 Tug Bratianu Km 1098
26.10.1944 Tug Ardeal Km 1097
26.10.1944 Tank SRD 30 Km 1093
26.10.1944 Motor Tank Km 1066
03.11.1944 Barge NFR no. 779 Km 1048
03.11.1944 Barge Valul Km 1046
03.11.1944 Barge NFR no. 6141 Km 1098
03.11.1944 Barge DDSG 65150 Km 1066
03.11.1944 Tank DDSG 6535 Km 1066
03.11.1944 Barge NFR no. 400 Km 908
03.11.1944 Barge NFR no. 632 Km 892
03.11.1944 Tug Km 613
03.11.1944 Barge Km 609
03.11.1944 Motor tank Km 580
03.11.1944 barge MFTR no. 18 Km 565
03.11.1944 Motor barge Km 539
03.11.1944 Barge JRP 26515 Km 500
|Posted by: Th. Dorgeist August 21, 2003 10:50 am|
| 26. August 1944
Vielen Dank für die lange Liste mit teilweise für mich unbekannten Angaben.
Gestern fiel mir ein Tagebuchauszug vom 26.Aug. 1944 in die Hände.
Welchen rumänischen Schleppzug hat BECHELAREN wohl bei Orsovo versenkt ?
Ich habe nie weiteres dazu gehört oder gelesen.
Dank und Gruß
hello Victor thank you for the long list with partly data unknown for me.
Yesterday me a diary excerpt of the 26.Aug fell. 1944 into the hands.
Which Romanian schleppzug ( train of barges ) did BECHELAREN probably sink with Orsovo?
I belonged or read never further to it.
Owing to and greeting
|Posted by: Th. Dorgeist August 22, 2003 08:51 am|
| Hallo !
17.08.1944 Tug Km 745
17.08.1944 rumänischer Tug Decebel durch britische Luftmine gesunken bei km 666.
Können die beiden Verluste identisch sein trotz km 745 > 666 ??
Hat Jemand Daten zum Tug DECEBEL ??
17,08,1944 Tug km 745
17,08,1944 Romanian Tug Decebel by British aerial mine sunk with km 666.
Can the two losses be identical despite km 745 > 666??
Does someone have data to the Tug DECEBEL??
|Posted by: Victor August 23, 2003 06:15 am|
| Probably you are right.
Anyway it seems that the list is not complete. I found several other ships lost:
26.05.1943 Ismail Km 72 (damaged; 5 dead)
27.05.1943 Mihai Viteazul Mile 49
These two were the most modern river passenger ships in the Romanian inventory.
|Posted by: Andreas von Mach September 09, 2003 10:16 am|
| Hi Theo!
I have DECEBAL ex ARHANGELOS built 1889 Glasgow
Private oned,ie. not state not large shipowners.
Not as Romanian 1916 & 1921 registered.
I have no 1935 register.
Not yet traced as there some lack in yard list. Especially Alley & MacLellan, Gasgow , which built any small& riverine vessels is
not completed. Also possible is ex name :-(
|Posted by: Cristian Craciunoiu September 09, 2003 11:13 am|
| 1.About Am.Horty - You can find a lot of details about his leadership in the books published in the Editions Payot in 1922-1932 under the title Memoires pour servir a l'histoire de la Grand Guerre ( Momirs to Serve for the History of the Great War ), especilally the volume called "In the Adriatic Sea ".
He was the youngest Rear Admiral, promoted at this rank for his bravery as the leader of the light forces, especially cruiser Novarra and destroyers. he forced several times the barrage at Otranto and engaged British and Italian squadrons.
He was the c in c of the last atack forcing the Otranto strait that los the batlleship SZENT ISTVAN under the torpedoes of Luigi Rizzo's fast boat.
2. The best Romanian sources are the books published by Nicolae Koslinski and Raymond Stanescu in 3 volumes "Marina Romana in cel de al Doilea Razboi Mondial", at Ed. Fat Frumos and Ed. Modelism in 1996, 1998 and 2000.
There was also, but in English the volume Romanian Navy in WW2 - Modelism 1996 ( out of print )
Romanian Navy Museum of Constantza published some articles on the subject.
The Modelism ( see the site ) has a CD Rom about the Romanian Danube Flotilla with pictures, songs, uniforms and some secons of moving picture.
|Posted by: Andreas von Mach September 15, 2003 03:16 pm|
Low Danube Steamers reported that
NFR DECEDAL ex Bayerische Lloyd KRONPRINZ RUPPRECHT VON BAYERN
was struck a mine in August 1944 at km 616 near Calnovatzu.
Later srefloated and in 1951 again in service.
The sae data in the list of Bayerische Lloyd in "Donau - Schiffahrt " Band 5
|Posted by: Andreas von Mach October 23, 2003 09:15 pm|
| There shoul be a Soviet document listed about 400 units
SPISOK TROFEYNYKH KORABNLEY, PLAVSREDSTV I SOORUZHENII,
ZAKHVACHENNYKH NA REKE DUNAY, I RASPREDELENNYKH PO SOEDINENIYAMI OF 22 SENTYABRYA 1944 GODA"
|Posted by: Andreas von Mach November 13, 2003 07:58 pm|
| I have found that publication of the similar title was planned as issue No.6 in Lvov (Ukraina) by MARINA-POSEJDON group
S.B.Bogatyrev & K.B.Streblitskiy
POLNYY SPISOK KORABNLEY, SUDOV I PLAVSREDSTV PROTIVNIKA
ZAKHVACHENNYKH V AVGUSTE-SENTYABRE 1944 NA CHERNOM MORIE I NIZHNYM DUNAYE
(=full list of ships, vessels and floating material of enemies
seized in august-september 1944 at Black Sea and lower Danube)
It shoud have 30 pages.
|Posted by: Andreas von Mach August 22, 2006 10:14 pm|
| Some data from Soviets official list of Naval Loses on Danube
30.09.1944 Tug Alba Iulia Km 956 - Km 955 mine
04.10.1944 Barge NFR 1692 Km 1090
11.10.1944 Tug Gherdap Km 959 - 1001,5km mine ; as a minesweeper lost 12 men, 3 savalged
NEW! 12.10 steamer SMAGA 955,5km mine
19.10.1944 Tug Amurgul Km 1095 - 1094 km mine ; as a minesweeper 11 men savalged
25.10.1944 Tug Dambovita Km 1084 - 1098km mine
26.10.1944 Tug Bratianu Km 1098 - 1092km 15h30m
26.10.1944 Tug Ardeal Km 1097
NEW! Tug Diac (?) towing barge Fanela sunk 1097km on mines
26.10.1944 Tank SRD 30 Km 1093 - 25.10.44 1097km FANELA No.30 mine
26.10.1944 Motor Tank Km 1066 - 1063km tank DIOKTOR KARP(?) mine 5 men lost, 2 woonded
NEW ! 26.10 steamer Smederevo 1153km mines
NEW ! 26.10 tug Bertlillo 1092m mines
NEW ! 30.10 barge Dunarea 1158km mines
NEW ! 30.10 barge Vasiliska 1158km mines
NEW ! 3.11.44 tug Drac (?) townig barges No.779, Valul and No.36 lost on mines 1050m
03.11.1944 Barge NFR no. 779 Km 1048 - 1050km mine
03.11.1944 Barge Valul Km 1046 - 1050km mine
03.11.1944 Barge NFR no. 6141 Km 1098 -niot listed -niot listed
03.11.1944 Barge DDSG 65150 Km 1066 -niot listed
03.11.1944 Tank DDSG 6535 Km 1066 -niot listed
03.11.1944 Barge NFR no. 400 Km 908 -niot listed
03.11.1944 Barge NFR no. 632 Km 892 -niot listed
03.11.1944 Tug Km 613 -niot listed
03.11.1944 Barge Km 609 -niot listed
03.11.1944 Motor tank Km 580 -niot listed
03.11.1944 barge MFTR no. 18 Km 565 -niot listed
03.11.1944 Motor barge Km 539 -niot listed
03.11.1944 Barge JRP 26515 Km 500 -niot listed
NEW! 3.11.44 barge No.38 1158km mine
NEW! 3.11.44 barge No.138 1158km mine
NEW! 3.11.44 barge Reuya 1158km mine
NEW! 4.11.44 tug Paun damaged only the following 2 barges sank
NEW! 4.11.44 barge No.611 1064 mine
NEW! 4.11.44 barge No.611 1064 mine
NEW! 10.11.44 minesweeping-barge Ato 1064 mine
NEW! 12.11.44 minesweeping-barge No,.781 1064 mine
NEW! 12.11.44 minesweeping-barge No,.6725 1064 mine
NEW! 12.11.44 minesweeping-barge T-12 1064 mine
NEW! 14.11.44 tug Jean Milot Belgrad mine lost 2 officers & 6 sailors
NEW! 14.11.44 barge CH-13 749km
NEW! 18.11.44 elevator No.4 683km mine (on tow by tug Paris)
NEW! 18.11.44 barge No.1469 689km mine dameged only
NEW! 30.11 minesweeping-barge No.934 1054km damaged only
NEW! 27.12 minesweeping cutter No.12 (Romanian navy) 665km 5 men lost
NEW! 27.12 minesweeping cutter No.14 (Romanian navy) 643km
Moreover from 10.44 to 12.44 were lost 2 barges , 1 elevator , 1 ponton , cutter S-2
NEW! 16.01.45 barge SRD-38 1232,7km mine
NEW! 14.03.45 minesweeping-barge No,18 (Romanian navy) 654 mine
PS. I have not tried to verify the Soviet data with any other source.
|Posted by: Andreas von Mach August 23, 2006 10:22 am|
The second barge should be No.624
|Posted by: Andreas von Mach August 23, 2006 11:03 am|
She is a mototanker
Director Gh. Carp 1400hp 637.875t built 1938 Turnu Severin
Director N. P. Stefanescu seized by Soviets , renamed Bailkal lost also 6.10.46 km 1724 mines
|Posted by: Petre May 21, 2009 07:50 pm|
| A source on Danube Naval Action 1944 topic, must be the article written by the forum member Michi, in 2004. The adapted Internet text :
After Romania changed the sides in August 1944, the Ge. Danube units tried to retire to the west of Portile de Fier (The Iron Gates), on the German occupied Yugoslavian area. The military command of this operation was assumed by the senior officier remained here, Konteradmiral (Ing.) P.W.Zieb - Oberwerftstab Schwarzes Meer (Leader of The shipyards staff).
There was formed a naval group (Kampfgruppen - KG), known as KG Zieb, with the aim to bring Ge. boats, ships and troops from the Danube Delta to German occupied area.
KG Zieb was first gathered in the area of Galatzi-Braila on 25th Aug.1944. and was involved in fightings from the very next day at Piua Petri, till the end at Brza Palanka, Prahovo and Milutinovac on 7th Sep.(20th Sep.)1944.
In his componence were : 7.Landunggsflottille (Kkapit.Stelter) with 13 MFP, Landungs-Pionier-Bataillon 214 (Haupt.Schöbel) with 42 boats, 1.Küsten-Sicherungs-Flottille „Schwarzes Meer“(Kkapit.Wolters) with 2 KFK, Artillerieträger-Detachement/Minen-Räum-Gruppe „Untere Donau“ (Kapit.lt.Brouwer) with 3 Artillerieträger, also one Bewährungs-Bataillon (Haupt.Müller). Among armed ships and boats : Mil.Transporters (KT), Mine Cleaner, Desant Barges (MFP), Artilery Barges (AF), Landing Ships, 3 WorkShop Ships, Tugboats, RiverBoats.
Some details of fighting actions :
26 Aug.1944 Cernavoda : 174 vessel, 8000 people (2600 wounded soldiers (from a not evacuated hospital), 2000 women, children and civil personnal, 1200 sailors, 2000 soldiers). KG Zieb wiped out the fortified position Cernavoda; according Russian sources the Romanians had 6500 KIA and 2000 WIA. (till 29 Aug. German vessels passed unattacked). Ge. losses : 11 vessels and some 480 people KIA, some 700 WIA.
31 Aug.1944 Calafat : 194 vessels, some 4000+ male people (1600 male civilians, 2500 mil’s). KG Zieb passed the fortified position Calafat in heaviest fights and again large losses on Romanian side. Ge. losses : 22 vessels and some 400 people KIA, 500 WIA
1/2 Sep.1944 Prahovo and Brza Palanka : 172 vessels (3 Artillery Barges, 19 MFP, 15 Landing boats, 24 Assault boats...)
From 3 Sep. till 7 Sep.1944 KG Stelter (AF and MFP) tried four times to break through the Iron Gates (Eiserene Tor). All in vain. So all remaining vessels were sunk till 20 Sep.1944.
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Schneider, Gerd-Dietrich: Plattbugkreuzer. Schenk, Peter: Kampf um die Ägäis.
Whitley, Mike J.: German Coastal Forces Of WWII
+ some other additional sources
MfG Michi 16 Jan 2004
|Posted by: Petre June 09, 2009 07:16 pm|
(discutions about naval history), where the forum-member Wahnfried wrote on Jun.2005 more details about naval group Zieb. Adapted translation :
Fighting group Zieb componence :
The 1.Coastal defence flotilla (armed Coastal Boats), The 7.Landing flottilla (13 MFP), The 214.Engineer Batallion (1800 men, landing boats) and later, even one penal batallion (Strafbatallion). Together more than 170 ships and boats with about 8000 civilians (3600 Russian auxiliary trying not to fall in in the hands of the Sov.) and still 1900 wounded from an military hospital.
The first loss was the minecleaner 194 and his crew, remained and captured in the Danube delta by Sov.
The first battle took place at the fortified position Cernavoda, more than 30 km along the Danube, with armoured pilework, artillery positions, MG nests, etc. Aboard of the KG Zieb ships there were about 200 guns 20, 37 and 88 mm caliber. Day time 2 Kümos (coastal boats) were lost, but at night they could see better the flashes of the hostile guns. The losses on German side : 11 ships, 480 KIA and 712 WIA. The Rumanians deplored 6390 dead people. The fortress was destroyed.
163 remaining ships gathered before the Danube island Turtucaja. There were heavy batteries of the Rumanians. Germans issued an ultimatum to the fortress commander. If he opens fire, it will be like Cernavoda and KAdm.Zieb will request for 200 Stukas to the Army Group South. So, the fleet passed Turtucaja without fight.
Afterwards on 27 Aug. in the harbour of Rustchuk (Russe) Zieb was able to buy fuel and food for 8000 people of his fleet. Also, this will be able to be granted to him the hard wounded in the harbour of Svistov will be transferred in hospital trains and send to Germany. In Svistov the following ships remained on Aug.28 : MFP 340, 571 and 575, Tugboat Zagyva, MotorShip Kinburn, SteamShip Marian, Ro 03, SM 173. The commanders of these ships did not want to go any more and separate try to come on the country road to Yugoslavia and from there to Germany.
The next fight was on the 28 Aug. at Turnu Magurele. The Rumanians had brought up artillery, among others 150 mm batteries. The batteries were destroyed, but the tugboats Hain and Kreutzenstein were sunk. The tugboat Vietje was send to help the arsenal ship III and for cover, MAL 913 and FAS 316. These ships remained to many back and became on Aug.30(?) victims of 4 Ro. river monitors.
Before Calafat were joined others 3 Artillery Barges (2x105, 2x37 and 8x20 mm guns) under command of KptLt.Brouwer. On Aug.31, battle at Calafat. This fortress was full of cannons and MG's and also there were river mines. Already before Calafat 2 transporters (800 GRT) were selfsunk because one could not drag fast enough the other in the strong current. In the battle 22 unities were sunk (MFP 301, 307, 589, steamboat Marisa, tugboat Mainz, several transporters and pontoons, etc.) The flagship KT110 was hard hit and floaded and was towed by two tugs, also 3 transporters were saved and towed by tugs. Later, the valuable transporter Josuah, with 2000 t of romanian brandy, was towed by tugboat Gastein. FG Zieb passed the Fortress Calafat in heaviest fightings; again generous losses on Romanian side.
After Calafat there came the news that Russian units reached the Cazane Cataracts and a breakthrough by Iron Gates become impossible.
The fleet of 172 ships (finally 215) had anchored at Prahovo. There, the wounded, the women and the children were brought of board. KAdm.Zieb flew with a Fieseler Storh airplane to Belgrade to Feldmarschal von Weichs. The Wehrmacht wanted to fight to free the Cazane Strait, but only the KG Rehe with 7 Pahthers could break through to Prahovo. Now, the civilians should be brought by train in Yugoslavia. The transport train became victim of partisans, 30 civilians death. The survivors were brought to Zajecar. The partisans attacked Zajecar by night and it came a bloody massacre. On Sep.10, the Brandenburg Regiment arrived at Prahovo, the area was cleaned and guaranteed for the transport of the members of the KG Zieb. The 215 ships were self-scuttled.
Another small KG existed in the West of Romania and temporary was called The Iron Gate group (die KG Eisernes Tor) (KptLt.Kaser), with a total of 26 unities (26 Aug.) : houseboat Nothung, river gunboat Bechelaren (300 GRT, 2x88, 3x37, 2x20 mm), patrolboat Alexandra, minecleaners 192 and Santa Rita, depot ships Oder and Weichsel, MFP 611, 612, 935..., 2 S-boats, minesweepper Tronje with 18x20 mm guns, Artillery Barges 916 and 917. On Aug. 26 in Orsova harbour one MFP was bumped and fired, 7 men caught. An infantry kommando was send, who fired at the harbour command. After the Roumanian harbour command was arrested and the fortress threatened to fire above the town, the MPF crew was released, but the damaged MFP were lost. On Orsova, same day were saved by the Bechelaren about 200 infantry which just were in the battle with Ro. armed forces.
On Aug.27, this KG drives through the Cazane Cataracts (120 km long confines after the Iron Gates), in a constant battle with Ro.troops and Yu.partisans, the firing range 50-400 m. The minesweepper Tronje sank on a mine, the ship Oder was damaged and floaded, an other boats lost. On Bazias the Ro. border-hunters barracks were shooted. After KG had drive through The Iron Gates and after the wounded was delivered in German occupied area, it was anew filled up with amunition and received the order to go back again and to keep open the Cataracts for the KG Zieb. Now the KG second time struggled by the cataracts. With landing combat patrols took and blasted mil.instalation on Bazias Aug.28 and took the city Moldova Noua. However, the first Russian troops (in strengthens to a division) reached then The Iron Gates. Now, one drive through of the Cataracts become impossible and thus The KG IronGates struggled now third time by the Cataracts. The KG Zieb came too late, could not pass the Cataracts any more.
|Posted by: Petre June 17, 2009 01:57 pm|
| Also, from the article 'Navigation and shipbuilding on the Danube during WW2' author Herbert Winkler ("Schifffahrt und Schiffbau an der Donau im II. Weltkrieg" von Herbert Winkler, aus MARINE - Gestern, Heute -1988) an adapted text :
On 27 Mar.1941 the friendly government had fallen in Belgrade and the Germans invaded Yugoslavia. On 2 Apr.1941, the Yugoslavs moved by the motorship "Kumanovo" two towed small boats loaded with stones to Milanovac, and sank them, to close the canal Jucz. In Tekija, the motorship "Vites" also sank two small boats loaded with stones in the Iron Gates Strait. The Yugoslavs sank both tugboats themselves. Nevertheless, German pioneers could thwart this plan.
The unities of the Donau Flotille were led back from Rotterdam to Linz, and immediately send to Belgrade. On 5 Jun.1941 in Smederevo, the stored ammunition stocks of the Yugoslavian army flew in the air by sabotage, an Yugoslavian ship sank and several unities were severely damaged. Then unities of the Donau Flottille searched the Danube for mines and freed the river.
On 20 Jun.1941 the Donau Flottille lay in the Roumanian harbour Braila, and aboard Roumanian monitor "Bucovina" a discussion about the cooperation took place. On 21 Jun, 1941 the Russia campaign began and the Roumanian navigation suffered sensitive losses. Two river sweepers of the Donau Flottille got also lost by mines in Danube Delta. The ship traffic increased immensely and tugboats and small boats were brought by other areas. Already in 1940 the capacity of the Danube was not sufficient to unwind the risen oil transports from Romania. 14 small tankers were brought by Elbe to Dresden, where the superstructures were diminished and the small boats on low loader were sent on the highway to Ingolstadt and left there to river. In Regensburg were finally equipped.
The most difficult enterprise was the transport of 6 U-boats II B - type. There were carried out diesels, batteries, machines and the turrets, the boats were laid on a side and were lifted on pontoons. In the shipyard Galatz the boats were raised again and equipped for the Black Sea. From 1943 Germany had bought in Holland, Belgium and France a big number of small boats. They were transferred over Rhine - Elbe - highway - Danube to the Black Sea. Moreover, 60 small tankers were used for a bridge building in Giurgiu. For the strengthening of the ship capacity in the Black Sea and Aegean Sea, the takeover of 15 motorships and 11 motortankers was planned. These were also partially carried out and then rebuilded.
Till 1943 the ship losses remained low and there was a huge transport duties. The bigger passenger ships had been adapted to hospital ships. On 9 Apr. 1944 the British airplanes stationed in South Italy had mined the Danube from the air. In a telex from 10 Jul. 1944, General Admiral Marschall, the special authorised representative Danube, announced to Berlin : "The mine searching activity of navy and air force has fully started, up to 9 Jul. 266 mines are removed, 202 mines are brought to the detonation, 42 mines are detonated and 19 mines were found on land. The losses of the whole Danube navigation up to now: 130 ships sunk (27 tugboats), 172 ships damaged. From the sunk ships 80-90 % are able of elevation. Cargo and tank capacity is still good, a lack of tugboats becomes visible. Except the sunk and damaged ones, tugboats had to be delivered to the navy for the mine searching service."
After Romania closed the armistice with USSR, the line of communication of Bazias up to Sulina (1075 km) get out from German control. A ship association, under the command of the Konteradmiral Zieb started moving on Aug.25. Sometime it had a length of 25 km and the guidance was difficult. Zieb did not knew the Danube and also it no river maps existed for the vehicles.
On Cernavoda, first bigger battle, was more than 4000 Mil.women (Wehrmachtshelferinnen), children and wounded on the ships. The Ro.artillery sank the tugboat "Kreuzenstein" and 2 workshop ships. On Aug.27 Giurgiu and Rustschuk passage in march. On Aug.29, 700 hard wounded and 300 women with children were moved in Svistov (Bulg.) on a hospital train. Under leadership of Kapitanleutnant Brouwer were 11 tugboats, 9 MFP and 3 AF. At Calafat, 2 two small boats were sunk in battle. The group Brouwer had reached Prahovo on Aug.29/21.30 and, at night Aug.30/31 the rest of group Zieb struggled by Calafat. In the morning Aug.31, tugboat "Mainz" and two vehicles were sunk at Gruia by the Ro.artillery.
On Sep.1/10.15 the first ships reached Prahovo, where the whole convoy dropped the anchor. The group Zieb still had 2000 civilians and 1600 wounded on his ships. These were disembarked on shore and had to spend the night first under free sky in a corn field, until an evacuation was possible by train. Because the strait of Iron Gates was taken by Roumanian troops and Yugoslavian partisans, the passage was impossible. Hence, on Sep.7 all ships in Prahovo were sunk themselves. Under them there were 27 motorships and 31 MFP.
In the Kataract Strait, there were also losses, because also on Aug.26 the Roumanian troops began with fightings. On Orsova, from the Donau Flottille : the gunboat "Bechelaren", the auxiliary gunboat "Nothung", the minesweeper "Weichsel", 4 river sweepers, the patrol boat "Alexander" and two S-boats. In Tekija, the kataract tugboats "Ostmark" and "Centaur" completely burned out on fightings .
On Aug.28, the unities of the Donau Flottille, under strong fightings, managed the breakthrough to Bazias and the next day the remained forces gathered in Belgrade. They could release on Sep.15 in Milanovac the motorships "Deutschland", "Johann Wallner" and 2 small tankers. On Sep.18 a breakthrough was tried to Orsova, but at Ogradina, approx. 7 km above Orsova, there were superior forces and the ships had to withdraw again.
In a statement about the clearing of the lower Danube, The Mil.Transport Management Southeast (die WehrmachtsTransportLeitung Südost) informed on 3rd Mar.1945 to Berlin:
"The possession of the Kataract Strait was the key of the clearing of the lower Danube. Because moreover no troops were available, all ships standing below the Kataracts were lost. In the Romanian Danube sector, up to the mouth have remained : 1080 floating vehicles (157 motorships, passenger ships and harbor boats). From these ships belonged to the German navigation group 363 vehicles, (50 motorships and 12 boats) and also 6 German motorships from the Black Sea. To Rumania belonged 31 motorships, 20 passenger ships, 15 harbor boats, 427 boats and small tankers. To Bulgaria : 3 motorships, 5 personal ships, 14 boats."
|Posted by: Petre June 19, 2009 04:31 am|
| Question please :
When realy reached the Soviet Army (Portile de Fier)The Iron Gates Strait ?
What realy was the threat (opposite) in this area, for the german convoy withdraw ?
A Soviet Division, or Roumanian troops and Yugoslavian partisans ?
|Posted by: Petre January 06, 2016 07:08 pm|
| Source : War Diary, German Naval Staff, Operations Division. (KTB der SKL) (USA translation) Adapted selections, only references Romania.
26 August 1944
One tug fired by Romanians km 597, one German convoy confiscated by Romanians km 576. Several vessels had an artillery engagement with Romanians km 527. Also "Ship 192" ( gun-carrier AT-912 ? ) reported artillery engagement and artillery barrages km 1030 in front of the Kataract tract and fighting activity between km 1016 and 930. Moldova and Orshova evacuated by Germans. The 1st Coastal Speed Boat Flotilla (1.Küstenschutzflottille) sailed from Braila with German women and children, 25 Aug.
The Danube is considered heavily endangered between km 496 and 1050...
Konteradmiral (ing.) Zieb (Leader of Shipyards Staff / Admiral Black Sea) on board Uj-KT 110 reported by teletype 15.27 : Forced a way-through near Cernavoda with about 60 ships and army vessels. Ship losses cannot be foreseen yet. Casualties were small. Position 15 km south Silistria, position probably 20.00 : Russe-Giurgiu. Relevant questions will be decided by the Inspector Minesweeping Danube (Kpt.z.S. Lautenschlager, Inspekteur Minenräumdienst Donau), if woundeds, women and children should disembark in Russe and if all vessels will proceed further.
At 18.32 the formation was stopped by Romanian heavy battery, 71 km below Giurgiu. It is said that a 30 km long and heavy bunker line existed there. Passage will only be possible with very slow speed, due to the little water depth and as ammunition is barely sufficient. Konteradmiral (ing.) Zieb is trying to receive through truce-officers permission for a free passage to Giurgiu for woundeds, women and children.
Report 12.50 :
As Orshova was evacuated by Germans and the complete Romanian and partly Serbian Kataract line was not yet re-captured ... it will be tried to bring through the total transport from the Lower Danube to the Serbian frontier above the Timok mouth. Armed ships must leave Russe on the evening of 27 Aug. For the present 9 landing barges and 4 gun-carriers will be employed as intercepting posts to protect convoys above Giurgiu- Russe. The Commanding Admiral will also try to pass with wounded, women and children through Russe with 20 ships of the Naval Fitting-out & Repair Works.
The command of the entire Danube was handed over to the Inspector Minesweeping Danube ...
According to the report ... Konteradmiral (ing.) Zieb subdued Romanian resistance below Russe and arrived in Russe with 2 Uj-KT, 18 landing barges, one coastal escort flotilla consisting of 23 ships, 54 pioneer boats, the hospital ship Bamberg, 2 work-shop vessels and 3 barges. About 2,800 lightly wounded, 300 women and children and about 800 army soldiers will disembarke here. After that the formation will continue it's voyage up stream.
To subdue the Romanian monitors above Russe, air force activity was now promised, after a first decline due to fuel shortage. A few vessels of the Donauflottille fought their way-through the Kataract area to Orshova. Further vessels will follow to assist...
29 Aug. 1944
The Group Sea Transport Braila with the steamer Grafenau, 3 landing barges, ship Marianne and 3 sailing vessels with 770 wounded from army on board joined Group „Zieb”. Both groups met Romanian monitors at km 620.
Naval Radio Station Russe was dismantled and re-fitted on board of AT-915.
The Minesweeper Group Lower Danube (Minenräumgruppe „Untere Donau“) had an engagement with two Romanian monitors at km 573, 2d Aug. of which one was shot afire while the other turned off to the west. Barges AT-913 and F-316 sunk in battle near km 629. After heavy bombardment, the group forced passage through in the afternoon near km 795. According to unconfirmed Bulgarian report, one tanker was shot afire and two tankers were beached by trailing Romanian monitors.
The Group "Iron Gates" ("Eisernes Tor") was successful in breaking through Kataract extent.
Group met artillery barrage at 18.00 on 28 Aug. near km 1072. Guard ship Tronje hit a mine during an engagement west Moldova Noua and sank. With the support of Ship 192, one AT and one minesweeper, the Group forced its way through near Bazias on 29 Aug. and arrived in Gradiste. Military and transmitting installations were destroyed by landed troops from Ship 192 in Bazias. The place was evacuated by the enemy.
Ship 192 freed a number of barges and tugs in artillery engagement between Moldova Noua and Ram and shot down one Russian plane on the night of 26 Aug. which attacked with gun fire. Supply ship Ute shot down one mine carrying plane on the night of 27 Aug. A number of Romanian guns were put out of action near km 1066 by planes from Group "Eisernes Tor". Ammunition supply was made to Ship 192 and Group "Eisernes Tor".
S-boot S-86 was damaged by mine when breaking through near Kataract extent.
Commander of Group "Eisernes Tor" reports to the inquiry of Inspector Minesweeping Danube, that the successful prospect for a break-through from the Lower Danube for an armed convoy is only then given, if the Danube road from Bazias to Turnu-Severin is cleared by infantry and tanks by simultaneous operations of naval vessels and if the bases were reached.
30 Aug. 1944
1. Position of Group „Zieb” at 23.00 near Vidin-Calafat. Must soon reach Serbian-Bulgarian frontier. Has ahead 3 Romanian monitors. These were passed today by first Group (In command kpt.lt. Brouwer from Russe). Nevertheless a meeting with these monitors is estimated as considerably risky to Group „Zieb” if they were not successful in passing them during the night time.
2. Group „Zieb” will presumably reach Prahovo (in the middle of Vidin and Turnu-Severin) on the 31 Aug. At present the Group Brouwer is stationed here. Operations of the Army will start here to clear the tract. Inspector Minesweeping Danube intends to send the Donauflottille through the Iron Gates to meet Group „Zieb”. On account of the Romanian positions in the area of the Iron Gate the further advance is still believed to be serious.
The Naval Staff :
"1. A formation of about 100 river ships is steaming up the Danube with large amounts of goods under the command of the Chief of Shipyards Staff / Admiral Black Sea, Konteradmiral (ing.) Zieb. Romanian resistance was forced at different places up to how through vigorous counteractions causing us casualties. Position of Formation „Zieb” at 23.00 on the 30 Aug. Vidin, Calafat and planned to reach Prahovo on 31 Aug.
2. Ahead of the formation were Romanian river monitors of which up to now only one was annihilated. Three were still at large which means a serious risk as they passed Vidin - Calafat on 30 Aug. Elimination is only possible if Luftwaffe searches and combats them on the Danube river or canals.
3. Attention is especially drawn to the importance of the valuable ship park for future operations and supply traffic as well as to the value of the carried goods.
4. The Naval Staff asked the Operations Staff Luftwaffe to order operation for this single task. Operation is especially important on the 31 Aug. and 1 Sept. while the deciding break-through will be forced here through the Iron Gates.
The Minesweeper Group Lower Danube consisting of 3 artillery carriers, 9 landing barges, 13 sweeper-tugs and one barge were at 21.00 on 29th, near km 881.
Formation „Zieb” was at 23.00 on 30th near Vidin-Calafat. If break-through past Romanian monitors on position further up the stream is successful during the night time, it might be possible that Formation „Zieb” reached Prahovo on 31st, where at present Group Brouwer is stationed.
Operations of the Army will start in Prahovo to clear the Kataract extent. Inspector Minesweeping Danube intends to send the Donauflottille down the river through the Iron Gates to meet Formation „Zieb”.
Report from 30th, concerning meeting of group See-Tra Braila with Formation „Zieb” was not confirmed.
31 Aug. 1944
Formation „Zieb” landed 700 wounded as well as women and children in Svistov on 29 Aug. The Formation reports early on 31 Aug. engagement with Romanians at km 736 without losses and continuation of hilly voyage.
According to report from the Inspector Minesweeping Danube, the Minesweeping Group Lower Danube received order to support the break-through of Formation „Zieb” near Calafat and to carry coal and bread ahead to the formation at once. The Formation is advancing with a speed of 5 kmh and is heating boilers with wood and coal dust. Our planes sighted the formation near km 781 at 14.00 below Vidin.
Supported by Minesweeper Group Lower Danube, the Commander General Southeast (Heeresgruppe F) ( von Weichs ) will carry out in the next days the Operation Wassernixe from Prahovo, to mop-up the Danube from the Iron Gates to Orshova.
Air Force Command Southeast (Luftflotte 4 ?) reported that operations against the monitors were not more possible, as additional fuel tanks did not arrive.
The „Zieb” Force put into Prahovo. The Minesweeper Group Lower Danube also arrived in Prahovo.
So far the Rumanian monitors have not been contacted again.
According to a radiogram sent by the „Zieb” Force, passage was forced at Calafat in the course of an artillery duel on 31 Aug. between 20.52 and 21.30. 3 artillery-barges belonging to the Minesweeper Group Lower Danube joined the Force.
2 Sept. 1944
Donauflottille reports that enemy resistance near Bazias has increased considerably. Vessels trying to break through will have to expect severest gun and machine-gun fire.
Air Force Command Southeast reports the mooring of 5 small war ships on the north bank at km 630 on 1 Sept, a concentration of ships - among them 2 large vessels - at km 597, and 2 warships with large funnels, on westerly course at km 590. The island of Ada-Kaleh has been occupied by the enemy since noon 1 Sept. Our anti-aircraft gun post Gura Vaii was silenced by the Rumanians.
Commanding General Southeast has put Combat Group „Rehe” at Prahovo under the command of Generalmajor Bazing for the Operation Wassernixe as well as all anti-aircraft units located on the south bank and those on the north bank below Orshova. In addition to other units, Major Rehe has taken charge of one alarm battalion consisting of navy, army and air-force personnel.
3 Sept. 1944
The Local Defense Officer at the Iron Gate makes urgent request for commitment of warships since valuable special ships and cargoes are endangered. The Pilots who took part in the break-through of the Group "Eisernes Tor" report that 25 tug-boats are present at Kladovo, 5 towing barges and 30 tug-boats at Orshova, 3 towing barges and 6 tug-boats at Milanovac and 25 tug-boats at Dobra. Minesweeper Group Lower Danube and the „Zieb” Force are still at Prahovo, the 214th Pioneer Battalion arrived there. No reports came in about the ships of See-Tra Braila.
During the night of 2 Sept, 2 gun-carriers were involved in a gun battle near Bazias. The enemy used anti-aircraft weapons, anti-tank cannons and machine guns.
Army troops and Combat Group „Zieb” have started their advance upstream toward Prahovo. Marinegruppenkommando Süd ordered bringing through as many vessels and cargoes as possible and in case this could not be done, putting the crews in action ashore.
Air Force Command Southeast was asked to search for Group See-Tra Braila. According to declarations made by escape, internees vessels of See-Tra Braila were scuttled by their own crews.
On the forenoon of 2 Sept. the ammunition train bringing supplies to Combat Group Provoho blew up as a result of a bomb hit.
Nothing is known about Combat Group Prahovo. Konteradmiral Zieb is intending to block the Danube below Prahovo by sinking all ships unfit to continue with the journey.
Marinegruppenkommando Süd informs Naval Staff of an order to Admiral Zieb and Inspector Minesweeping Danube, according to which the breakthrough through the rapids must soon be made, thus bringing the operation, in collaboration with the Army, to a successful end. Further delay could endanger the total success.
A combined Combat Group consisting of army, air, and naval personnel cleared the Rumanian bank of the central Danube up to Moldova Noua. In the course of the combat, Ship 192 was hit by artillery fire in the bow and some water entered the ship; she cleared 4 mines. Due to damage suffered, the ship had to leave her position.
At the lower end of the rapids, the attack was started with 2 gun-carriers, 12 landing craft and 8 tugs, as well as with the army troops aboard. Almost the entire ammunition at Prahovo was given to the formation. The remaining ship not joining the formation and the freight vessels in Prahovo were scuttled. The able part of the crews, after being equipped with weapons, was put into action for the defense of the Danube near Prahovo.
The situation of the Combat Group "Rehe" is still tense. Measures for return of the wounded and the air-force female auxiliaries are being started.
At noon Inspector Minesweeping Danube went to Prahovo by plane with a pilot for the Iron Gates.
The Combat Group "Eisernes Tor" fought its way out of the Moldova Noua area with 2 gun carriers and minesweeping vessels and with about 25 tugs. Details are lacking.
The attack on the lower rapids (Operation Wassernixe) failed. The Combat Group „Stelter” returned to Prahovo after the 214th Pioneer Battalion lost almost all assault boats. Heavy shelling from both banks.
Konteradmiral Zieb reports that he scuttled the greater part of his ships, because the directive of Marinegruppenkommando Süd, instructing him to try the break-through again as German reinforcements were appraoching to free the Iron Gates, was received too late. The boats and ships still in fighting condition however are available. Konteradmiral Zieb is going to Belgrade to make his report.
8 Sept. 1944
The channel markings of the rapids were removed by the Rumanians and the Greben Canal was blocked by a scuttled towing vessel.
The water level is very low.
All naval units in Prahovo were put under command of the Combat Commander (?). The vessels of Group "Stelter" were put into action near Prahovo as floating batteries. Their ammunition stores are very low.
9 Sept. 1944
Operation Donauelfe is being continued. The infantry spearhead was near Orshova on 9 Sept. Moldova Noua has already been occupied by the Russians. No report came in from the Group Prahovo. The personel of the Group See-Tra Braila has passed Belgrad.
10 Sept. 1944
At the Iron Gates the Combat Group "Rehe" is now south of Kladovo after annihilating Russian paratroopers. The "Untere Donau" flottille has established a strong-point in Prahovo after discontinuation of its break-through attempts,
The 92nd Grenadier Brigade is advancing from Berzasca in the direction of Danube bend at Svinita. Support of the advance by the Donauflottille is no longer possible, since the water level is too low.
The Group "Eisernes Tor" took part in the Operation Donauelfe, as well as in land and river operations; small groups advanced to Svinita and confirmed that the water markings are generally in place. The towing barges and tugs in Milanovac therefore received orders from Inspector Minesweeping Danube to make a renewed breakthrough attempt up the river. No reports from the strong-point Prahovo.
Fighting is evidently going on in Moldova Noua. According to a report by the Donauflottille, half of Moldova Noua was lost to the Rumanians. The clearance vessel Weichesel was shelled by artillery off Moldova Noua at 18.00.
In connection with Operation Donauelfe 3 towing ships and 25 towed vessels were engaged in an artillery duel near Moldova Noua on their trip up the Danube. Only slight damage was suffered. The formation is anchored just below Belgrade. Rescue of other vessels only possible after Orshova and the surrounding hills are occupied by our troops.
11 Sept. 1944
Cladovo and Tekija remain encircled. Group "Stelter" carried out a new advance to cover land movements and was engaged in a heavy artillery duel with a battery on the Rumanian bank.
According to a report by the Inspector Minesweeping Danube, enemy columns equipped with various types of arms have reached Turnu Severin; an engineer column is approaching Prahovo from the east.
12 Sept. 1944
In the afternoon of 12 Sept. the Combat Group „Stelter” was shelled by the enemy between km 873 and km 882. A tug was heavily damaged. On a MFP all guns and on a gun carrier almost all guns were inactivated. 50% of the crews are either dead or wounded. The Combat Group was in action in order to cover the landing of a naval company and of a battalion of Russian fighting on the German side.
The Combat Group "Rehe" received orders to bring female assistants and wounded to Prahovo; from there they will be moved farther to the rear by transport planes. Two gun carriers were slightly damaged while giving fire support in the Moldova Noua area.
Anti-aircraft artillery will remain only in Gradiste and Moldova Noua. One tug and a barge struck mines and were damaged.
The Combat Group "Rehe" reported in the afternoon of 12 Sept. an attack by strong Russian forces from the direction of Turnu Severin supported by partisans.
13 Sept. 1944
Likewise Group "Rehe" can no longer be supplied since the Prahovo-Palanka road is under enemy fire.
At 18.25 the spearhead of the Regiment "Brandenburg" arrived in Prahovo.
Group "Stelter" reported repeated Russian surprise fire near Milutinovac; there remains ammunition for one gun only. Both four-barreled machine guns on Gun carrier AT-915 are out of commission.
14 Sept. 1944
Group "Eisernes Tor" has postponed a renewed advance towards Milanovac - part of the Operation Donauelfe - until the Army situation is clarified. Moldova Noua is again in our hands. Towing ships in Tekija are ready again after replacing the personnel which had deserted.
In the course of Operation Wassernixe, Group "Stelter" was twice heavily attacked by Russian and Rumanian surprise fire and suffered many casualties. Our ammunition is used up. Group "Stelter" together with Group „Rehe" plans to fight its way out. This Group is heavily shelled from Turnu Severin and is being opposed by strong Russian forces and partisans. Group "Rehe" has at its disposal only 3 guns and 6 mortars.
Anti-tank weapons are not available. Near Turnu Severin the enemy is making preparations probably for crossing the Danube.
15 Sept. 1944
In connection witn the Operation Donauelfe the Army has again gone over to the attack.
New buoys were laid in the channel of the Danube by Group "Eisernes Tor". The Group reached Drencova in the evening 14 Sept; 2 gun-carriers and one river minecleaning boat are ready for firing near Moldova Noua.
Group "Stelter" sent a most urgent report in the forenoon 14 Sept. and scuttled its vessels after using up all ammunition. The crews were incorporate in the Combat Group "Rehe".
The strong points on the western bank of the Danube are still being continuously shelled. Our advance on Orshova was for the present halted by strong enemy pressure south of Berzasca.
The Russians are crossing the Danube near Turnu Severin since 13 Sept.
17 Sept. 1944.
In the course of Operation Donauelfe the Army took the Kazan entrance. Fighting in the Iron Gates area is being continued; the strong point Milanovac repulsed twelve heavy attacks in which the Tito partisans suffered severe casualties.
Russian forces are still being assembled on the eastern and northern bank of the Danube.
23 Sept. 1944
The area of Ogradina and the lower Kazane approach have been subjected to heavy Russian artillery fire since the early hours 21 Sept. The enemy crossed the Danube from Kladovo ...
Russians entered Tekija on the evening of 23 Sept. Radio communication with Group „Zieb” and Tekija has been suspended since then.
On the afternoon of 25 Sept. the guardship Bechelaren was subjected to heavy enemy shelling between km 984 and km 987.
26 Sept. 1944
In the area north of Orshova our cut off units, suffering considerable losses, were able to fight their way back to our own positions located farther to the rear...