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Posted by: RHaught August 01, 2006 07:15 pm

Well after finding a source for wool and working with Dragos decided to get this started in the US.

website: http://www.9thromanian.com

Please give me feedback on the site to make corrections. Would like to add section of commands, structure and rank in the future. Working on finding suppliers for items right now.

Also, Dragos might need to order some of that wool because I already have emails asking on how to get the uniform from people here in the US.

Posted by: darius1941 August 12, 2006 10:39 pm

Rhaught,
I went to the website and I think you did a great job putting it together and I am ready to become a unit member!
If there is anything which I can do too help let me know.
As you know Iam already equipt and uniformed as a romanian soldier so that should help alittle.
Now all we need is the eastern front events to return!

Posted by: Québec August 13, 2006 04:21 am

Very nice site! Simple and effective. With more material added when your group grow, this will be a very interesting site! Wish I was in the US, so I could join!

Posted by: RHaught August 14, 2006 03:48 am

Well, it says Mid-Atlantic on the site because thats where I am here in NYC. Darius is in northestern PA but make sure you click on the recrut form and fill it out. The http://www.members.tripod.com/fssflhg/ has members from this region to Canada.

Posted by: Québec August 15, 2006 04:54 am

I think it will be a little complicated to cross the USA-Canada border with a VZ-24!!! On the top of it, I don't have a car!

Posted by: darius1941 August 18, 2006 10:58 pm

Part of reenacting is helping one another participate in this hobby and do not let the rifle or the car stop you from reenacting.
The vz-24 rifles are very cheap here in the u.s. so buying a second rifle for you too use is no problem.
For many years I had too take a bus to the reenacting events and although it was
not my first choice too travel I was able to reenact and so long as you have someone too meet you at the bus station you will be okay.
As far as I know there are on eastern front events being held for the rest of the year so this give you some time too get yourself uniform and equipt.
Take some time and think about it,we are here to help.

Posted by: RHaught August 20, 2006 08:43 pm

Just got back from a beach invasion event on Lake Erie. There are some more events that I am trying to get information on such as one in Massachusettes and Virginia!

Posted by: RHaught September 23, 2006 02:41 am

Well here it is, the first event for a Romanian unit in the US

Haydenville, MA OstFront Event - October 20-21

Lets see how it goes!

Posted by: Florin September 23, 2006 03:08 am

QUOTE (RHaught @ September 22, 2006 09:41 pm)

Well here it is, the first event for a Romanian unit in the US

Haydenville, MA OstFront Event - October 20-21

Lets see how it goes!

Rob,

I still have the photos and little movies in QuickTime (15 seconds or less) which I did when I met you at Fort Mifflin, near Philadelphia, on April 17, 2004!

Posted by: dragos03 September 23, 2006 03:28 am

QUOTE (RHaught @ September 23, 2006 02:41 am)

Well here it is, the first event for a Romanian unit in the US

Haydenville, MA OstFront Event - October 20-21

Lets see how it goes!

Congratulations, i hope you will post pictures from this event.

Posted by: RHaught September 24, 2006 03:23 am

Florin,

Thanks for letting me know. You can post the pics on the forum I think. Maybe doing Romanian might get you into the hobby since there isn't too many events to go to for Eastern Front. Most events deal with France to Germany (44-45). Do you still have my email? Live in NYC now and not Princeton, NJ.

Posted by: RHaught September 24, 2006 03:29 am

QUOTE (dragos03 @ September 23, 2006 03:28 am)

QUOTE (RHaught @ September 23, 2006 02:41 am)

Well here it is, the first event for a Romanian unit in the US

Haydenville, MA OstFront Event - October 20-21

Lets see how it goes!

Congratulations, i hope you will post pictures from this event.

Dragos,

Will have pics taken for this event for sure. Will have them on the website for the unit so everyone can just go there to see them. There are a total of 5 who do Romanian but looks like 2-3 of us will make it there.

Posted by: Florin September 28, 2006 03:48 pm

Reenactment at Fort Mifflin, Philadelphia - April 17, 2004

Real German military motorcycle, in good functional status.
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fm1um3.jpg
"Click" on it, for real size.

Posted by: mihnea September 28, 2006 05:03 pm

That's a Chang Jiang CJ-750 converted into a BMW R71.

The Chang Jiang CJ-750 is a Chinese copy of the Russian IMZ M72 (can be found many times in Romania with BMW R71 papers) that is a copy of the BMW R71. CJ750 is style in production today and many are used in reenactments across the world.

Posted by: Florin September 28, 2006 07:14 pm

QUOTE (mihnea @ September 28, 2006 12:03 pm)

Well, your explanation should have priority, as I trust you in being a much better expert in motorcycles than me.
Here there is another photo - a detail:
http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fm4qm6.jpg
Click on it!

To joke a little, I already knew that at least the spark and the supply cable for the spark could not be originals from WWII.

Posted by: Florin September 28, 2006 07:24 pm

Reenactment at Fort Mifflin, Philadelphia - April 17, 2004

Other items belonging to the participants. The box is definitely not an original.
About the helmets and the guns, I don't know.
"Click" on them, for real size.

http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fm2rz0.jpg

http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fm3ly8.jpg

Posted by: Florin September 28, 2006 07:31 pm

Reenactment at Fort Mifflin, Philadelphia - April 17, 2004

Waiting the enemy...
http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fm5tt1.jpg
"Click" on it!

Posted by: Florin September 28, 2006 07:48 pm

Reenactment at Fort Mifflin, Philadelphia - April 17, 2004

A puzzling image... Looks like an Allied soldier defected to the other side... A troubling headache for the historians of the future generations!
http://img524.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fm6lf7.jpg
"Click" on it!

Posted by: Florin September 28, 2006 07:51 pm

Reenactment at Fort Mifflin, Philadelphia - April 17, 2004

Victory, at last!
http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fm7fh6.jpg
"Click" on it!

Posted by: RHaught September 28, 2006 08:27 pm

QUOTE (mihnea @ September 28, 2006 05:03 pm)

Though the knock offs are common, I have actually seen original BMW's in reenactments in the US. For some people, they prefer to use the originals than copies. Don't understand why you would want to take out an original high in value but they do.

Posted by: New Connaught Ranger September 28, 2006 08:46 pm

QUOTE (Florin @ September 28, 2006 03:48 pm)

Hallo Gentlemen,

I spotted this bike thinly disguised as a german WW2 model in Cugir at the weekend, 23 September 2006, there was the annual festival taking place.

http://imageshack.us

I knew straight away it was not a BMW or "Zundapp" the helmet could possibly be Hungarian, the water bottle is not a standard piece of Wehrmact kit either, to the front was mounted an ammo box on the right side, of the side-car and to the left-side a bayonet and a shovel. (Which would never have been practical on the original bike).

http://imageshack.us

Sorry for the poor picture but there was no other place to take the photograph from

Kevin in Deva

Posted by: mihnea September 28, 2006 10:38 pm

For those interested in CJ-750: http://www.blitzbikes.com/index.htm

BMW R71’s are very rare only 5000 were made before the war and most were sold to civilians, I have never seen a surviving R71 in German army paint.

Here is another very good replica from this site: http://www.pwbrowning.com/
http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2jd0.jpg

And some original vehicles from Wings and Wheels 2006:

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010073zl9.jpg
BMW R12

http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010044ho6.jpg
Zundapp KS750

http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010032ap9.jpg http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010033gl8.jpg http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010035ce2.jpg
SdKfz 250 (no Czech OT-810 replica here

)

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010090mg3.jpg
Kettenkrad (a bit of rain and they have immediately covert it)

Posted by: RHaught September 28, 2006 11:37 pm

QUOTE (mihnea @ September 28, 2006 10:38 pm)

For those interested in CJ-750: http://www.blitzbikes.com/index.htm

Blitzbikes is here in NYC. I know one of the gentlemen involved but he is on the militari aspect.

On another note, Mihnea when can you send me the information you told me about? The Manual of Arms, commands (and hand signals if known).

Posted by: the goose September 29, 2006 05:31 pm

QUOTE (mihnea @ September 28, 2006 10:38 pm)

)

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010090mg3.jpg
Kettenkrad (a bit of rain and they have immediately covert it)

i was there in Wings and Wheels 2006 as a re-enactor
it was a good event, besides the rainy weather

i'l be next year back at W&W as a re-enactor maybe we can have a little chat

Posted by: Florin September 29, 2006 08:13 pm

http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1010090mg3.jpg

The motorcycle with tracks (Kettenkrad), made in about 7000 pieces in Germany, was also manufactured in the United States after war, to be used for remote farms or in lodging industry.
The fact that was also produced in U.S.A. should make it more available for fans.

Maybe the easiest item to obtain in the U.S. is the WWII Jeep (made in 500,000 pieces).
Once I saw one rusting near a small country road in Pennsylvania, with a plate: "100 dollars, or say your offer".

Posted by: RHaught September 29, 2006 08:34 pm

QUOTE (Florin @ September 29, 2006 08:13 pm)

about two months ago, two were for sale and they went for about $50,000 each.

Posted by: Florin October 01, 2006 01:10 am

QUOTE (RHaught @ September 29, 2006 03:34 pm)

QUOTE (Florin @ September 29, 2006 08:13 pm)

The motorcycle with tracks (Kettenkrad), made in about 7000 pieces in Germany, was also manufactured in the United States after war, to be used for remote farms or in lodging industry.
The fact that was also produced in U.S.A. should make it more available for fans.

Maybe the easiest item to obtain in the U.S. is the WWII Jeep (made in 500,000 pieces).
Once I saw one rusting near a small country road in Pennsylvania, with a plate: "100 dollars, or say your offer".

about two months ago, two were for sale and they went for about $50,000 each.

I assume your quote is about 2 "Kettenkrad", not about 2 "Jeep".

Note: considering that during the last U.S. census more Whites claimed German ancestry, than English ancestry, and after WWII the former members of Waffen SS could legally emigrate to start a new life in the U.S., in am not surprised by this interest in German military vehicles in the U.S.

Posted by: RHaught October 01, 2006 01:22 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D250033032908%26fvi%3D1&item=250033032908

Just take a look! over $50,000 and reserve not met

Posted by: RHaught October 02, 2006 11:36 pm

Question,

What Russian gear would be appropriate for the Romanian soldier to have been carrying? Already have the German but need the info for Russian.

Posted by: Kepi October 03, 2006 05:23 am

During WW2 very few items of Russian equipment were carried by Romanian soldiers. The Russian equipment was of a poor quality and was not very tempting for the Romanian infantrymen. Maybe sometimes they used some tent sheets, entrenching tools, canteens and probably some warm (padded) clothes during the winter.
There are more photos presenting Romanian soldiers carrying soviet weapons: sniper version of M.1930 Mosin-Nagan rifles, M.1940 PPD and M.1941 PPSh SMGs or M.1927 Degtjarev LMGs. They could carry also the respective ammo pouches.

Posted by: RHaught October 03, 2006 10:08 am

That is what I thought, most pics I have seen have them using German equipment/fieldgear if they are using non-Romanian items.

Just received my kit from Dragos a few days ago. Y straps have rings instead of hooks to connect to ammo pouches and belt. The German y strap has hooks, why did these ones have rings?

Posted by: mihnea October 03, 2006 08:25 pm

QUOTE (RHaught @ October 03, 2006 01:08 pm)

The Y straps are hung from the belt, above the D rings you should have a loop in the Y strap through which goes the belt, the D rings are there to attach different equipment such as grenades or the canteen.

Posted by: RHaught October 03, 2006 08:55 pm

QUOTE (mihnea @ October 03, 2006 08:25 pm)

QUOTE (RHaught @ October 03, 2006 01:08 pm)

I just figured it out about 20 minutes ago doing laundry!

Posted by: RHaught October 04, 2006 10:05 am

QUOTE (Kepi @ October 03, 2006 05:23 am)

What about the Russian backpack? Have an original mid-war German pack but it hooks to the German y straps and the Romanian straps doesn't have the connections needed.

Posted by: 120mm October 05, 2006 08:06 am

The castings on the fins are crude. Plus, I believe the "glove-box" on the gas-tank is an IMZ/Chiang Jiang affection.

Though they are really cool rigs. Some of the CJs have a "rumble-seat" on the sidecar, giveing them a total capacity of 4 people. If you go real slow, I imagine.

Posted by: RHaught November 20, 2006 09:59 pm

found some more films on Youtube and added them to the site to share

here is the link and are the ones with the word film in parentheses

http://9thromanian.com/10.html

Posted by: RHaught February 21, 2007 03:00 am

Well the National Park Service contacted me and asking if I would be willing to attend a Stalingrad event being held at the WWII Memorial in Washington D.C. this spring. Lets see if I can get at least two others to go with me if it happens which would be a good boost for Romania's recognition here in the US.