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Posted by: Kepi July 19, 2006 11:53 am

I found on a Russian website, presenting a reconstruction of Stalingrad battle, organized near Rostov, a photo of a “Romanian soldier” dressed in winter uniform.

http://imageshack.us
http://www.stalingrad-info.com/

The great coat looks OK but the buttons seems to be german instead of big khaki paint romanian ones. The roll-up collar sweater , the muffler and the light-gray puttees are a little bit off-topic. However, the efforts to portray a Romanian infantryman somewhere in Russia is most praiseworthy.

The MG-34 HMG was not used by the Romanians in 1942-43. A Czech ZB-30 LMG would be more suitable fort that pose.

Posted by: mihnea July 19, 2006 12:31 pm

The MG-34 and 42 were LMG+HMG=GPMG (General Purpose Machine Gun).

The puttees are covered in snow and ice, the fabric of the pants is very similar to Russian fabric used in WWII uniforms.

But the reenactment was fantastic, judging from the pictures, not often you see a LT-38 and t-28 in running condition "fighting" each other.

Posted by: Cristian July 19, 2006 01:39 pm

From the same source:
Grinning Russian youngsters strut around the farming village carrying a heavy load of German trophies-ammunition belts, machine guns and rifles they have gathered in the battlefields outside Stalingrad.

photo seems like taken in 1950th.

http://imageshack.us

Posted by: Infantry July 20, 2008 08:19 pm

Hello. I'm from Stalingrad. This is romanian soldier from Stalingrad's club "Pehotinetc". We have only 2 romanian soldier now. And we don't have good uniform for them. But we find...
This foto from reenactment november 2007. Stalingrad's romanian.

http://imageshack.us
http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=329&i=romanianid6.jpg

http://imageshack.us
http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=142&i=1212oe5.jpg

http://imageshack.us
http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=165&i=1213om8.jpg

Thanks. Anton.

Posted by: Ferdinand July 20, 2008 08:30 pm

nice!

thanks guys for sharing the pictures.

seeker

Posted by: C-2 July 20, 2008 08:45 pm

Very nice.

Posted by: Infantry July 20, 2008 09:00 pm

Thanks comrades.
Making romanian soldier is very hard, but this is very interest.

On this site have more fotos from juny 2008 reenactment.
http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?showtopic=17920

Posted by: guina July 21, 2008 04:56 am

Quote Infantry
Спасибо за румына. Благодаря бегству румынской армии был обеспечен успех контрнаступления Красной армии под Сталинрадом.

translation:........Thanks to the defection (running ) of romanian army was assured the succes of Red army counter offensive ......
True,not true,but certanly a widely held poinion.

Posted by: Dénes July 21, 2008 05:28 am

QUOTE (guina @ July 21, 2008 10:56 am)

translation:........Thanks to the defection (running ) of romanian army was assured the succes of Red army counter offensive ......
True,not true,but certanly a widely held poinion.

To what particular time period this quote refers to?

BTW, 'defection' doesn't mean running (away)...

Gen. Dénes

Posted by: Kepi July 21, 2008 06:07 am

QUOTE (Infantry @ July 20, 2008 08:19 pm)

Hello Anton!

Congratulations for your romanian WW2 impression. I know that the reenactment movement in Russia is very much developped. We are glad to hear that the romanian army is also represented... There are some changes to make to be done on your uniform: the shape of the "Capela" (field cap), the cuffs of the tunic, etc... I'm sure you will improve your appearence...

For information concerning the uniforms and equipment of the romanian army in WW2 please see: http://www.worldwar2.ro/forum/index.php?showtopic=2360&st=15

There are several historical groups in Romania who reenact also the WW2 period. More information concerning their activity you could find on their site: www.6dorobanti.ro

Posted by: Infantry July 21, 2008 06:07 am

QUOTE (Dénes @ July 21, 2008 05:28 am)

To what particular time period this quote refers to?

Stalingrad. November 1942

http://www.livinghistory.ru//index.php?showtopic=12541&st=20

Posted by: Infantry July 21, 2008 06:29 am

Many thanks. I know, that a uniform and Kepi at us are not so similar. We cannot find a variant for manufacturing the Romanian uniform anywhere. If we would have a cloth of suitable color we could sew a good uniform. Also we cannot find and a ready retort of a uniform. Has found only two sites italianfront.com and http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwerkstattelbe.fc2web.com%2Fladen_romania.html On the first site very dearly, on the second site sellers are silent. Thanks for the reference. The truth I already for a long time was on this site. At us already it is a lot of information on a uniform and equipment.

Posted by: guina July 21, 2008 08:53 am

Dobro pojalovati pehota !

and General,I know that "to defect "as in Pacepa is not the same thing as "to run",but it was early in the morning and i coud not find the proper word,so i stand corected !

Posted by: Kepi July 21, 2008 10:46 am

QUOTE (Infantry @ July 21, 2008 06:29 am)

You're most welcome!

To find a suitable kaki fabric cloth for uniforms is a big problem for us too. We use to adapt old communist style uniforms for our WW2 impressions, even if there are differences concerning the cut and the shade of colour. The communist time kaki was greener than the WW2 pattern. If you could find british kaki cloth you could use for the Romanian uniforms because the colours were very similar…

Posted by: Infantry July 21, 2008 03:03 pm

Thanks. Danke.
I have noticed similarity of color of a fabric with the British uniform too. It seems to me, that the Polish uniform is similar too on color if to be based on site Schippenfabric. But for us these prices very dear. Unfortunately In Russia there was no similar color of a uniform from cloth. But we do not lose hope, all of us we shall equally find the necessary fabric. And whether there was at Romanian a soldier a uniform from cotton? And the equipment on our Romanian is similar on realy? I did this equipment itself, using photos from your forum.

Posted by: Kepi July 21, 2008 03:52 pm

In the romanian army uniform was made in cloth but during hot weather only the summer tunics, made in cotton, were worn… The cap and trousers were usually in cloth but there were also exceptions.

As far as I can see from your photos, the cut of the tunic seems OK except the cuffs which are of the shirt type. Usually the Romanian army cuffs were pointed. The puttees should be of the same fabric as the trousers. I would suggest a lighter shade of kaki for the tunic as it was often washed and became discoloured.

I cannot see the field cap, if it has the traditional double peaks. The “rosette” that fasten the flaps of the cap indicates a cavalryman.

As concerns the equipment it seems to be OK. Congratulations! However take care… You should carry the entrenching tool and the bayonet on the left hip, and the bread bag and mess tin on the right hip.

What kind of rifles are you using during your show?

Posted by: Infantry July 21, 2008 05:45 pm

I know about cuffs. But it as a temporary variant of a uniform, yet we shall not find the necessary uniform. Inhabitants of Volgograd absolutely badly know, that in Stalingrad the Romanian soldiers were at war. Now they began to learn a little. On reconstruction we use the weapon from the ground, we give them the second life. Our Romanians while without the weapon. They as artillerists on gun Pak 35/36. In Future we plan to give them Mausers of the Czech manufacture.

Posted by: 21 inf July 21, 2008 05:58 pm

Congratulations for your initiative to reenact romanian soldiers, Infantry!

Posted by: Petre April 01, 2013 03:44 pm

9. They were also some romanians fm. Bukarest (?)
http://nnm.ru/blogs/ratttt71/boy-za-stalingrad-70-let-spustya/

One romanian participant
http://botinok.co.il/sites/default/files/images/1e933677ea5acdfccba170342550dd1c_%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BC%D1%8B%D0%BD.JPG

Posted by: Petre May 12, 2013 07:32 am

QUOTE

The president of the romanian mil-historical association "Traditia Militara" Mircea Emilian Stoica along with eight other companions arrived in Crimea in order to participate in the reconstruction. Romanian army, if someone suddenly remembers, fought on the side of Nazi Germany

http://belveder.name/blog/2011/10/31/70-let-nachalu-oborony-sevastopolya-rekonstrukciya-boya-kak-eto-bylo/

Posted by: Hochel January 01, 2014 04:32 pm

Hi, I found 'The Sportsman's guide' where they offer Romanian greatcoats, feldjackets and trousers, here link to greatcoat: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/new-romanian-military-wool-trench-coat-light-olive-drab.aspx?a=1123933

What do you think about them?